Some day

Well, it has turned out to be quite the day. Scrummed in the morning on Parliament Hill. TV interviews in the afternoon. Conversations with serious-looking people in the early evening. A somber session with the prime minister after that.

I came home to an explosion of activity on this blog, And a very upset wife. Some days all you can do is shake your head at the way things turn out. I did not change today, nor did the reasons I came to this place. But something else sure did. I will collect my thoughts, and return in three hours. I need to be with her right now.

85 comments ↓

#1 gar on 02.09.06 at 9:35 pm

As one who supported the Conservative party throguh letters to the editor and my family vote I am very disappointed in Mr Harpers action in appointing Emerson to cabinet. The Conservatives have lost a lot of support here on the coast. Harper could save face by admitting it was not the right thing to do apologize to the voters in Vancouver and his caucus. He will be a bigger person for it Just give us the full story of the necessity for this move

Gar

#2 a_liberal on 02.09.06 at 9:41 pm

Probably would have been a good idea to keep your dissident within the party rather than going blabbing to the media about it and in doing so keeping the story alive. Way to go, your helping our party (the Liberals) immensely! Silly Tories, always shooting their mouths off to the media and hurting their party.

#3 james curran on 02.09.06 at 9:41 pm

I admire your frankness. Kudos to you. I was frank when I predicted you’d beat our man Carr. Good on you.

The What Do I Know Grit.
http://thewhatdoiknowgrit.blogspot.com/

#4 Dan Leduc on 02.09.06 at 9:50 pm

The concerns in respect of Emmerson and Fortier are obvious and easy concerns.

My larger concern is with the size of the cabinet. Mr. Turner, you have stated that you feel that Mr. harper must “have a plan”, although you ar enot privy to it. With a much smaller cabinet and a cabinet appointed without apprent regard for the very principles many Tories ran on, I think we are llooking at a country that will governed by the strongest PMO ever.

Why else would Harper not appoint many long time, vocal Tory (former Reform) Mp’s? Why such a small cabinet? All to keep the lips on the ship tighter than ever so that the PMO can ultimately govern.

#5 Zenadina on 02.09.06 at 9:56 pm

You and your party should be ashamed of yourselves!

#6 Robert McClelland on 02.09.06 at 9:56 pm

My compliments to you, Mr. Turner. You’ve managed to demonstrate that at least one Conservative really meant what they said about cleaning up government and is willing to stick to his principles.

#7 Andrew on 02.09.06 at 10:01 pm

Garth, stick to your principles, our country and its democratic foundation are stronger for it. I’m from Vancouver, 24 years old, and though Emerson was not in my riding, I went to sleep angry and completely dissilussioned with politics in our country…his move was a complete betrayal of his consituents and supporters.

God forbid you or your family are taking heat for telling the TRUTH. Keep up your rare and noble work. “I fear nothing when I am in the right!”

Thank you for saying what needs to be said.

#8 JM on 02.09.06 at 10:06 pm

It wasn’t long ago, in the dark years, the bad years, the Liberal years, when we in the west were told “If you knuckledraggers ‘out there’ in the west want representation in cabinet, stop voting PC/Reform/Alliance you dumbasses, and vote Liberal” (I paraphrase) For many reasons, and with a few exceptions we chose not to, and suffered for it. Suffered in political terms and in $$ terms.
I like to think I am not a vindictive kinda guy, but if ‘urban Canada’ (what’s Calgary?) wants representation in cabinet, vote them in next time. I will say, too, that if I had voted for Mr. Emerson the liberal in Vancouver, I’d be mighty annoyed right now, and would probably want my money back, too.

#9 ACanuck on 02.09.06 at 10:27 pm

Garth:

Were we to have more MPs like you, what a greater country this would be.

Harper has made a fundamental mistake in appointing Emerson, and it is deeply disappointing to see our new PM stumble so soon.

Still, I hope the Conservatives are able to put in place many of the policies they planned. They are good policies.

#10 pb on 02.09.06 at 10:29 pm

I also want to say props to Garth for not toeing the party line on this issue. As for every other Conservative on the news today, the hipocracy is staggering.

Garth, what are your thoughts on Michael Fortier? I’d understand if you’re currently not in a position to print them.

#11 bs on 02.09.06 at 10:29 pm

Of course Liberal supporters didnt mind when Brison/Stronach defected because it was out of ‘principle’. Ya right. No one was calling for a by-election back then.

#12 Greg on 02.09.06 at 10:32 pm

Mr. Turner

I am usually a Liberal supporter. But if you were my in my riding, without a doubt you would have my vote.

There is something to be said about a man who stands up for their principles.

There are some things that are not worth sacrificing.

#13 yyc on 02.09.06 at 10:36 pm

Mr. Turner, Take more than 3 hours. C-251 will come around again and it can pass. Way too much drama today.

#14 Scott in Ottawa on 02.09.06 at 10:38 pm

Mr. Turner. I am a Tory and I share your anger. Stick to your principles. Speaking out may hurt the party today, but it will make it stronger in the long run. Remember, Tories have principles, Liberals only have ambition.

#15 Van on 02.09.06 at 10:41 pm

Kudos to you for sticking to your principles – unlike so many of your fellow Conservatives, who’ve backpedaled so much these past few days that if they were on bikes they’d have dropped into the ocean by now! What Mr. Harper has done is not only hypocritical, it’s an affront to every single voter in this election. He kept telling us that his would be different from the previous government, and by golly it is – it’s worse! This has truly been a sad day for Canada. You deserve better, Mr. Turner.

#16 NCF TO on 02.09.06 at 10:51 pm

I love ya, Garth, but you should have stopped at your scrum comments. You’ve now become the liberal press’ favourite Conservative MP, and that’s scary. You’ve also given our political enemies some great fuel to their vitriol. Scream all you want behind closed doors, but airing dirty laundry in public is self-destructive.

While some loud and passionate constituents have made their voices known, other quiet and thoughtful constituents are happy to see a strong and powerful Conservative Prime Minister play some political hardball against the party that feels it owns the natural right to govern. There may have been a time in the future to give these interviews, but week 1 was not it.

But I still love ya!

#17 Platty on 02.09.06 at 11:09 pm

It is all well and good to stick to your principles, perhaps next time you might want to do discuss this behind closed doors first or at least get your first day in The House of Commons under your belt first. Whatever posessed you that you felt you needed to express yourself to the media? Of course, if you feel that you are more important than your party, continue spewing.

#18 Martin Hollyer on 02.09.06 at 11:17 pm

I have never voted Conservative. I remember hating the Mulroney years, and was quite happy with the 1993 election results. However, there were a few bright lights in the Mulroney government and you were one of them.

With the early days of the Harper government you are once again showing the same class that you displayed during your tenure in the Mulroney government.

When Harper starts to play the same old tricks as the Martin government (i.e. the David Emerson defection), it’s nice to see someone stand up for what’s right.

It is independent MPs like you that prove Trudeau’s pronouncement about “Nobody MPs” wrong.

You are a somebody.

#19 West Coast Teddi on 02.09.06 at 11:22 pm

Two years from now, we Conservatives will be wallowing in our beer standing up for principle as we look upon a new Liberal Cabinet. The rape and pillage will begin anew but we can stand tall and say that we did the “right” thing.

Yes Garth you are right. I too feel that Harper made a mistake but only the CPC will suffer. We shall continue to be the conscience of the right, hense forth to be known as the NDP – ConDippers for short. Why did 5 million Canadians vote for a corrupt party? Why, after all the work you did in Halton, did you “just” win over a bumbling Liberal? “Cause they play politics and we play principle”.

We suck Garth and we eat our Leaders. We truly are unfit to govern! Spin wins so banish us to the wilderness.

I’m tired of the crap! My choice was elected, my Party is in “power” and I was happy for the first time in decades, yes decades. My God that hurts. Stick to your principles for they will last a life time and forever we will cry “the West wants IN”.

#20 Robbie on 02.09.06 at 11:26 pm

Garth,

Keep at it. We need to make this right or our chance to effect positive change for the country goes down the tube for good.

#21 Anne on 02.09.06 at 11:28 pm

So your plan is to be a latter day Ted Heath? Eddie Sargeant? Bill Murdoch? A constant thorn in your government’s side, while wrapping yourself in glory?

Shame on you. You’re capable of much more inside the tent than outside of it. Get back in there and say it won’t happen again.

#22 tom in TO on 02.09.06 at 11:30 pm

Sometimes if you got a beef with your leader or boss, its probably a good idea to meet with him then scream your head off at him in disgust. Doing it in a media scrum, knowing full well the that left wing reporters will use it to keep battering the party, is either a terrible strategic error. Priciples are respected, but come on Garth, dont feed the fire.

#23 Lucille Humphry on 02.09.06 at 11:36 pm

Probably would have been a good idea to keep your dissident within the party rather than going blabbing to the media about it and in doing so keeping the story alive. Way to go, your helping our party (the Liberals) immensely! Silly Tories, always shooting their mouths off to the media and hurting their party. By a_liberal on 02.09.06 9:41 pm

I would bet my bottom dollar that this was posted by a Tory attempting a little reverse psychology on you Garth.

You are a man of principal (unlike Stephen Harper and David Emerson) – and I admire it.

I bet you could win as an independant after your courage and straightforwardness.

#24 mike on 02.10.06 at 12:35 am

Garth won’t have to run as an independent once he becomes party leader ;)

#25 William Sturgess on 02.10.06 at 10:20 am

As a Liberal supporter for many years, I have sometimes felt that my party was not always living up to its principles. I dismissed it by saying, “well, they’re politicians. What would you expect? They’re all the same.”

Mr. Harper’s cynical actions have made me repeat that mantra. Thank you, Mr. Turner, for helping me see that they’re NOT all the same. Keep up the good work.

#26 Win Te Pu on 02.10.06 at 11:40 am

Principle Garth. Hooray for you. It is the party leader Harper who was not loyal to you, to the principles you stood for when you as a party preached so vehemently for integrity.

#27 bekky scott on 02.10.06 at 11:49 am

Garth, Garth, Garth…whatever were you thinking? Loyalty Garth – did your mother never teach you that? If you are unhappy with your boss, you don’t shoot yourself and all your colleagues in the foot. Put a sock in it – suck it up man. You just went down in relevance – if that was even possible.

#28 J.W. Wagner on 02.10.06 at 11:55 am

For what it’s worth, I am at the very least disappointed in the floor crossing that now seems to be a practice in Canadian politics.

I don’t know much about politics per se, nor the policital system in Canada, but is there a rule or law that says all cabinet members have to be from the same party? Would it not have been possible, if Mr. Harper really wanted to build bridges that he could have asked Mr. Emerson to serve in cabinet without changing parties? I know it’s a novel idea, but it would have scored big points with me and I suspect other citizens as well.

#29 Sam Tran on 02.10.06 at 11:57 am

Mr. Turner,
Good for you in speaking out against the Emerson shame. It sure doesn’t take long for Harper to show his arrogance…one usually does that after a 2nd term in office. That Harper guy is such a quick learner.

Can’t vote for the Liberals because they are corrupt; can’t vote for the Conservatives because they are arrogant and will soon be corrupt; can’t vote for the NDP they consider anyone who makes over $50K/year as being rich and should be taxed a heck out of…the Marijuana Party of Canada is beginning to sound pretty good.
Sam

#30 Ed ramsay on 02.10.06 at 12:00 pm

I am not in your riding but I support your views and honesty. It was this quality that had me voting for the Reform party.
If the Reform Party had been elected we would now have the ability to recall our MP and it is a right voters should have.

I have to wonder who is advising the Leader of the Conservative Party. The choices that he has been making lead me to believe it is liberal supporters and old line torry party members who are pulling his strings.
Instead of the people who took the reform party from nothing to opposition party.
He seems to listen only to people who want the good old days back and they are the reason I switched to the Reform party.
This merger has destroyed the principals that the Reform Party had.

The principles of honesty and integrety that you are showing.
Stay the course dont get down but stand your ground.
Remind the PM that it was this original belief of integrety and honesty that got him elected. Right now he has shortened the time he will be in power and has given the Liberals the next election even if they do not have a leader selected.

#31 h.dick on 02.10.06 at 12:01 pm

I am 55 years old who never voted conservative. It was not right then and it is not right now that people can switch parties to advance their careers without consulting the people who elected them in the first place. There ought to be a law against this.
I admire your stand on this issue and I think you should stay the course in being the conscious of not only the conservatives but all parliaement. More MPs should stand up and be counted in order to reflect their constuents views rather than the party’s view.

#32 Jamis Lopez on 02.10.06 at 12:03 pm

Selecting a Liberal MP to sit in his cabinet was in the interest of the country and against partisian politics, a compliment to the Liberals, and a sign to the country that Mr. Harper realizes we need to work as a team, picking if able, the best man for the job.

Did the voters of Mr. Emerson’s riding want “their man” to sit in cabinet, or sit in opposition? Mr. Emerson, feeling that he had been elected, not a mere token of partisian politics, did what he thought would best represent his riding, and his Province, and his country.

The Conservatives were elected to run the country as best they can not to engage in partisian politics. The concept is so new to the mentality of the many that they only see it as something it was not, and they want to see it that way rather than understanding it for what it is.

If Mr. Turner is as “into” partisian politics as he says he is, then he should perhaps be supporting his “party”? In Democracy you vote for an MP, not necessarily the party. If the party loses, do you not want your elected representative, to represent you any longer, but sit in opposition?

SENATE APPOINTMENT
Harper campaigned for an elected Senate which has yet to be put in place. The unelected member which he appointed to his cabinet became only incidentally a Senate appointment, not a Senate appointment per se. What you see Mr. Harper doing is building a cabinet to get the job done, inspite of bad press. We should thank him for his courage.

The plans for an elected Senate are still very dear to every Conservate member’s heart, including that of Steven Harper. I have followed this issue for a number of years.

The inability of many to mentally discern between one thing and another and to be swayed by the thoughts the media puts in their mind, is probably why Steven Harper wants to say little and stick to business.

#33 Ross E Brown on 02.10.06 at 12:06 pm

My compliments to you Sir, for your integrity as an MP.

As you are well aware, the two words together have been used rarely…

It is sad that because you spoke as the Leader had while on the stump… you will now be punished for his breach in morals.

We teach our children that a promise made is somethingto be kept.

Obviously, PM Harper is not under that delusion… but rather the delusion that as PM he can do anything he wants… strange I thought we just finished with one of those.

Godspeed and please keep the faith of your constituents.

#34 Des on 02.10.06 at 12:16 pm

Dear Mr Turner,

Bravo for your brave stance re Mr Emerson’s dishonourable defection. He deceived the electors in his riding and betrayed all the Liberal volunteers and contributors. Its stunning that Stephen Harper is condoning and encouraging this floor crossing. Mr Emerson must resign for he is now a dead man walking politically and a millstone around the neck of the Conservative party as it seeks a majority next time out. Has Stephen Harper allowed a whiff of power to completely cloud his judgement? I lent Mr Harper my vote on January 23rd (after voting Liberal 3 times since 1993) and I’m beyond disappointed in him – within a week of his taking office!

I applaud your gutsy and honourable stand, I wish there were 308 MP’s of the same caliber. Good for you.

Des
Toronto

#35 Darren Toews on 02.10.06 at 12:21 pm

Mr. Turner, good on you for voicing your opinion on the whole debacle this week. It needed to said. However, what is said between you and the Prime Minister and idle speculation on how you expect to be sent away to the corner for misbehaviour are childish and immature. I think you have to re-think your media policy. You are being taken advantage of by the media at the expense of the party.

#36 A Voter on 02.10.06 at 12:27 pm

There are all kinds of situations which test one’s metal. I’m sure this may be testing yours right now. From what I have seen and read you have the right stuff. I’m sure the majority of all Canadians share your values and appreciate what you are doing because it is the right thing to do. As soon as our leaders get this engrained in their metal everyone will win. Democracy will have some meaning and flourish. Isn’t that what it’s all about.

#37 Mark on 02.10.06 at 12:36 pm

Mr Turner,

I disagree with all the yahoos who are insistant on telling you “you should have towed the party line, kept quiet, worked from the inside” The Conservative party needs to decide, is the principle MP unity (which means the Emerson affair goes against their principle), or is it independance (in which case they should welcome your arguments). Hypocrisy at it’s best.

#38 Rick Revelle on 02.10.06 at 12:40 pm

BRAVO!!!!!!!!! MR Turner at last a politician who realizes the concept of why people vote. I agree that Emerson should resign the people were voting for a Liberal, Emerson is not practicing Democracy he is practicing Opportunism.
With Harper appointing Emerson it’s the Same Old Same Old, too bad.

#39 Dennis McIvor on 02.10.06 at 12:42 pm

Mr. Turner: I am an Ojibway/senior/veteran.My Granma used to say”Sleep with dogs-wake up with fleas”have you considered a party switch?Harper et al are just a different horse out of the barn. Good luck and thanks for your honesty.

#40 mary finch on 02.10.06 at 12:56 pm

i am 70 years old and a liberal but you have renewed my hope for the future for this great country of ours, an honest and forthright politician what a breath of fresh air. thank you.

#41 JJ Rolston on 02.10.06 at 1:05 pm

I don’t agree with you at all and I am a Long time conservqative as was my father. I think that it is Mr Harpers mandate to form the strongest gavernment that he can and the opportunity ot include Mr. Emerson could not be lost. One of the reasons is that there is not a great wealth of orther candidates for cabinet posts as obviated by your foolish ramblings.

#42 Michele on 02.10.06 at 1:13 pm

I found your comments regarding income-splitting encouraging, but incomplete. You said “For example, single-income families where one spouse stays home with a child should be able to split income and drop to a lower tax bracket. Retired couples with one person on a pension and the other with little or no income should be able to do the same.” Good, but why limit it to single-income and retired couples. What about families with one high-earner and one much-lower-earner? I’m sure they exist, and if you leave them out, then it doesn’t seem entirely fair. Using the tax system to encourage certain types of behaviour (in this case, having one parent stay home with the kids) is nothing new, but I would suggest that allowing income-splitting between couples, no matter what their circumstances, would be a better solution (and encourage people to enter the workforce taking lower paying jobs, something that will become demographically necessary in the coming years). Also easier to implement in the tax-code.

#43 Hannibal on 02.10.06 at 1:25 pm

Hello Garth :
You and Myron Thompson may be the only two members in that whole dogs breakfast of members to really understand what Harper did on swearing in day .
He set off a tactical nucular weapon under the entire party .
This is the man who ran on a platform of morals and ethics and couldn’t wait to ditch the mask he has been wearing for the entire campaign .
Rest assured Garth Harper will never,ever form a majority Government in Canada precisely because of cynical moves like this .
I’ve said all along that neo-cons have only a nodding acquaintance with democracy and now Harper has proven me right .
This man is power mad.
Forget about free votes in Parliament it will never,ever happen Garth .
You appear to be an old fashioned man of honor and I feel empathy with your cause .
KNow this Garth thereal Conservative [party died a lonely death .
This is just the Reform/Alliiance with a brand new paint job .
Why do you think Canadians put Harper on such a short leash.To limit the aamouint of damage he can do to the couintry .
In reality Harper is no more than a lame’Daffy’ duck Prime Minister with a tepid mandate from the people .
Next time run as a Liberal.

#44 Ken on 02.10.06 at 1:27 pm

Cudos to you sir for doing what all your other colleagues should have done.
Our vote for the Conservatives was a signal we don’t want anymore Liberal/Socialist approach to government. Provide sensibility/accountability;that’s your mandate.

#45 Simon on 02.10.06 at 1:30 pm

Garth, I met you when you ran for leader of the PC party and had great button’s “Party on Garth”. We spoke for some time about what was wrong with Ottawa and you autographed a copy of your book for me. Anyways, I am pleased your back in parliament to bring forward some postitive change. As far as a cold and damp office, well it’s not so bad at least your there. Things will work itself out and you will do well for your voters. Thanks for speaking up regarding Emmerson – as it really bothers me living in Newmarket. Regardless, be well and keep staying true to yourself – that’s why we respect you.

Cheers,
Simon

#46 Monica on 02.10.06 at 1:35 pm

I was impressed by the way you held on to your moral standing when so many others have allowed theirs to lay down for a nap. I was disgusted when Stronach crossed the floor and agreed with the conservatives opinion on that, now it’s turned around and Harper has allowed someone to do the same thing. The liberals were plagued by scandal and bad press for the last year they held the reins in Canada, and now Harper starts his term off with scandal and bad press not much of a change that I can see. Hmmmmm… I really can’t see it getting any better from here. I had a sick feeling when I was watching the results of the election so few weeks ago, now I know why. I do not feel comfortable using the title “Prime Minister” With the name Stephen Harper. This was due to the fact that he could not answer the simple question of “Do you love Canada?” with a simple answer of “Yes”. Now I have another reason for that feeling. I would get out while you can before his agenda puts you in a position where you send your moral standing off to take a nap.

#47 Bruce Brown on 02.10.06 at 1:36 pm

Well done, Garth. We need more MPs willing to stand on principle. We do not have a dictatorship, much as Mr. Harper beheves like a dictator to his MPs. I am represented by another MP who has refused to check his principles at the door of the commons (Paul Szabo). Mr. Harper has started off exhibiting the same hypocrisy and opportunism that he so loudly criticed while in opposition. Mr. Fortier’s parachuting into cabinet from nowhere is just another example of his true colours.
C
Congratulations for sticking up for what is right.

Bruce Brown

#48 Robert Hollis on 02.10.06 at 1:45 pm

I would like to commend you on your stand regarding the crossover of the Liberal Emerson to the Conservative party. It takes a lot of guts to do what you have done so early in your appoinment. I hope this does not hurt you opportunities while in office. Harper should admit he was wrong by accepting the crossover and call for a bi-electon in Emerson’s riding. I agree with you that principle is more important than politics. I did not vote for your party, but I would vote for your intergrity. Keep it up.

#49 Perry Crippen on 02.10.06 at 1:48 pm

It’s just politics, Garth. Get over it.

Oakville Resident (unfortunately south of upper middle road and have to put up with Bonnie ( Bonnie Who?) Brown as my mp.

#50 John Merriam on 02.10.06 at 1:54 pm

Good for you Garth, but why didn’t you join the Reform party when you had a chance? Everything you now believe in was in the “Blue Book” of principles and policies.

#51 Vicki on 02.10.06 at 2:05 pm

Thank you Mr Turner for holding your party accountable. It takes a lot of courage to speak against your boss but what you are doing is right. Canadian voters are feeling more and more disenfranchised by the political system so your support is very much appreciated. Maybe Mr Emerson is a great catch but the bottom line is he didn’t run as a conservative – his constituents must decide if he should represent them as a conservative…and soon.

#52 Len on 02.10.06 at 2:48 pm

Garth It is refreshing to know that you
have higher principals than your leader.
It would be interesting to see the response of your leader and fellow conservatives if Mr Emerson had crossed
over to the BLOC.

#53 Kevin on 02.10.06 at 2:57 pm

Mr. Turner,

For the average Canadian, all we want is honesty from our elected leaders. For so long we haven’t seen it.

I am an overtaxed breadwinner for a single income family who is living pay to pay.

On Jan 23 I got out and excersized my right to vote. Sick of the liberals I was voting for a change. I couldn’t bring myself to vote for Mr Harper. After the results were in I accepted it and was hoping that he would prove me wrong in my opinion of him.

Most of the time, I like it when I am proved right, this time however, I am deeply saddened, and no less disillusioned and cynical of the motives of our elected leadership. What a shame considering the PM hasn’t even been in the official residence for one day.

As you can tell I am not the most eloquent editorialist, just an average joe living in Ontario trying to make ends meet.

Mr Turner, don’t lose the voice of your constituents, keep speaking for those who elected you, those you represent.

The average person like me who (still) cares enough to get out and vote sorely need to see some honesty from our leaders.

#54 David on 02.10.06 at 3:04 pm

MY EMAIL TO:

Hon. David Emerson,
Hon. Garth Turner,
Hon. Myron Thompson, &
Right Hon. Stephen Harper

cc: CTV Mike Duffy
CBC Don Newman

I congratulate all of you for your election. I look forward to great things from this Government.

I am very pleased with the Cabinet selections, including David Emerson and Michael Fortier. I only wish that Greater Toronto could have been included also, with a representative as qualified as either Mr. Emerson and Mr. Fortier.

We Canadians have just witnessed one of the most irresponsible governments imaginable, characterized by poor ethics and lack of meaningful results. From encouraging defections for personal gain, such as Stronach and Brison, to denial and under achievement, the last government was simply a bad joke.

I am certain that what Canadians want to see now is results, such as resolving the softwood lumber dispute, and in so many other areas. If recruiting qualified people will help, I say just do it, regardless of what party card they used to carry. If losing the support of a few who would prefer obtuse recognition is involved, then please do it. Just show us a government that seeks results, not one mired in political nonsense.

My concept of ideal representation would place much more emphasis on an MP’s individual objectives than their partisan loyalties. Apart from what any party faithful paid to get them elected, all Canadians pay much more for their ineffectiveness.

I say ignore the media, who feed and thrive on political dissent, and focus getting the important things done. Then, later, go back to us for another mandate, based on results, rather than political rhetoric.

Mr. Emerson, I compliment you on your decision to serve where you believe, and are extremely qualified, to accomplish things for we Canadians. I empathise with the pressure this creates for you and your family. But, if you can help, even if only putting our lumber industry back on track, then I believe that you should never regret this step in your career.

Mr. Turner and Mr. Thompson, I suggest you both support results, because those rather than your personal political motives and media hype may be what get you reelected next time.

Voter,
Toronto Etobicoke-Lakeshore

#55 HK on 02.10.06 at 3:11 pm

Mr. Turner,
First of all I must admit that I did not vote for you in the recent election. You have now made me regret that decision. A politician with integrity seems to be a rare commodity these days. I am glad that you represent our riding. It is sad that many in your own party do not seem to share this sentiment. Thanks.

#56 Shawn on 02.10.06 at 3:24 pm

Unfortunate Mr. Turner. In one day you made yourself irrelevant in Canadian politics. Your comments should have been made in private to the party not aired to the public. Thus, you have delegated yourself to the back benches and can not really do much for the people who voted for you.

Stick to your principals of course, but do it in the correct manner and not by sweeping the legs out from underneath your party.

#57 G on 02.10.06 at 3:27 pm

What makes you think you deserve a forgotten basement washroom office?
Find a doll and stomp on it in front of the cameras, sounds par for the course!

#58 Samuel on 02.10.06 at 3:28 pm

My dear Garth,

Who needs ennemies when they have friends like you?

#59 Helen Hollingsworth on 02.10.06 at 3:36 pm

So Mr. Turner you have decided to make a fresh start. Too late you have hurt your party and your prime minister. The media interviews yesterday were self serving and disgusting.
Have you noticed that those writing on your blog say I didn’t vote for you but …or I didn’t vote for the Conservative Party…or I don’t live in your riding but if I did I would vote for you….These are all Liberal or NDP sympathizers who want to see the party weakened and you have contributed to their efforts. They are not conservatives and you fell into the trap of thinking they were your constituents. How naive you are and you having had previous government experience.
You can say you want to move on and be more positive. I agree but you have not done yourself, the party or the prime minister any favours, only allowed the opposition and the media ammunition to preceive that the party is divided. All in week one. What happens when it really becomes tough?
So I hope you get the office you so richly deserve and I will be watching for the lunar eclipse to see if I can spot you in the bowels of the House of Commons. This is where you belong.

#60 eastar on 02.10.06 at 3:55 pm

The sadest thing for you is being a politic you acually do not play according the rules.

When Belinda betrayed her party, many people like you and me were outraged. But what happened in this election, she just declared the massive victory.

So we should know that average Canadian just have no problem with this kind of “betray” (if it is at all). So, what is the problem with average canadian, do they have a set of low ethic standards by electing Belinda? Do not say that and do not even say that you have higher ehtic standars than average canadian – that will at least be offensive. My impression is that people tend to believe that politician in general have lower ethic standards. (Do not take it personally, I believe you are one of the best of them.)

So, you should know. If a politician does not break existing laws, canadian are satisfied.

So what you can do. Cerntainly not stand up to ask what impossible and what not expected by canadian.

Do something significant and practical. Get the accountability Act passed. Reform the senate sooner than later. Do them within this government rather the next government (which is not necessary a Conservative government).

#61 Mike Pearson on 02.10.06 at 3:56 pm

We have waited too long to have you screw this up. Give Harper some slack and let him get on with putting a decent package in place. Think of the big picture while you sit up there in nosebleed section – where you belong. Think of the betterment of Canada rather than your inconsquential and naive beliefs.

#62 D. Millar on 02.10.06 at 4:01 pm

Garth:
Congrats on being so honest. Please thank Stephen Harper for being so quick to assure Canadians that there really is no difference between Liberal sleaze and Tory sleaze. He has just conveyed what we all feared in voting for change , that there really is none, in fact I suspect that is why Canadians only gave him an minority. I am sure we will also see two tier health care now that he has also made “two tier Tony ” Unhealth Minister. Anyway tell him to remember what happened to Mulroney and again thank you for being what may only be the last of the True Tories.

#63 Morley on 02.10.06 at 5:07 pm

So what is the plan now? Apparently you told him there were icebergs ahead and he said we are in a hurry to get there? Some of us waited twenty years to see these changes take place and we don’t need Stephen to make this a one man show. No matter how your wife feels today, you need to stay where you are and talk louder. We will give you a some background music.

#64 Nancy eaton on 02.10.06 at 5:43 pm

Dear Garth – thanks for being who you are and don’t ever stop. You know, you’ve learned the lesson Belinda Stronach learned before she resigned from the conservative party. I wish you the very best. Nancy

#65 Sheri V. on 02.10.06 at 6:28 pm

Those of us in your riding are fortunate indeed to have you as our MP.
Keep those principles Garth and you can help the Conservative party flourish.
Don’t let the negative press have much impact, and get on with the many tasks at hand.
Thank you.

#66 Richard King on 02.10.06 at 7:19 pm

It’s nice to see that a politician will stand up for his and his parties principles even when his party abandons the same principles when they get in their way.

#67 Peter on 02.10.06 at 7:29 pm

How refreshing to see an MP with the integrity to stand up for,and be the voice of the people who elect.Garth dont back down from your path.Do not let parliamentary bullies pressure you into submission.I applaud you.

#68 Mark on 02.10.06 at 8:21 pm

Your ego knows no bounds!
Congrats on making yourself the latest media clown.
Harper knew what he was doing when he kept the likes of you out of cabinet!

#69 betty on 02.10.06 at 8:56 pm

We voted for the Conservative Party. NOT YOU. If you join a party you are
to work as a team which you will never be able to do as your nose is out of joint for not getting a cabinet position. Read your notes and you will see you look like a whiny LIBERAL. Nobody seems to want that job I wonder why. Thought you had some class. You certainly can’t do your math and don’t know how to be a team player. THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO CLEAN UP THE MESS OF THE LIBERALS instead your nose is out of joint. Grow up. There are more important matters like crime, child care, health care. Sounds like you
are not going to be of much help, worrrying about people crossing the floor. People have done it for years and it will happen again and again. Sorry that you are a disappointment.
Our new prime minister has a hard job,would you like to be in his shoes?
A thankless job at that. Please don’t
disappoint the people in Burlington that
voted for you. What has been done has
been done, move on. There are more
important matters and we certainly need
a lot of cleaning up. Would be nice to have audits of CBC, POST OFFICE, SECRET ACCOUNTS and other CROWN CORPORATIONS….which you would be good
at in finding out what has been going
on for years and what we are not aware of. Many of us work hard and it is a shame that you are worried about floor
crossings. It is time for us to solve
more important matters and we certainly
need to improve our relations with the
Americans. Please do the job that we
asked you to do.

#70 dan burke on 02.10.06 at 9:33 pm

I respect your vocal opinion about Emerson. Hopefully, this issue would be resolved with a by-election. It is the only right thing to do. The voters of his Kingsway riding got ripped off, period. Hope its not to cold in Ottawa. The summers there are nice though.

#71 Ed on 02.10.06 at 9:41 pm

I’m an NDP supporter and the NDP was the only party that made “party switchers” an election issue…putting forward the idea that “party-switchers” should face the electorate in a by-election.

When Jack Layton brings this issue up in the House in the coming session, it’ll be nice to have principled folks like you Mr. Turner on the government side of the benches. Perhaps we can find a way to make this a “non-partisan” issue.

#72 gary wegner on 02.10.06 at 9:59 pm

Dear Mr. Turner:
I tip my hat to you for being a man of principle. Your stance on the Emerson matter is like a breath of fresh mountain air, and has augmented my faith that as long as there are still people such as you on the face of this planet, there is a glimmer of hope that in time, this world may be a better place for us all.
Gary Wegner

#73 Tod on 02.10.06 at 10:04 pm

Imagine someone in Ottawa speaking up on their constituents behalf. It’s about time that every MP starts to do this on a more regular basis. What is our political system becoming when you can run for one party and two weeks later can be sitting in cabinet for another??? Disillusioned… you bet!
Bravo Mr. Turner, on standing up for your constituents and your own principles. Continue to do so as many more Canadians share your beliefs. I thought that the Conservatives ran on the principles of ‘change’ and being more accountable for government decision-making…. it feels like more of the same puppet play just with a different puppeteer!

#74 George O'Dair on 02.10.06 at 10:17 pm

Irked? Yes, I’m irked. But, I want to see why Harper did it before I blow off steam. I’m not entirely sure that playing the “independent-minded” card, right now, was wise. Guess time will tell. Hate to see you use your talents unwisely and any limit future powers to press conferences. I want to see if Emerson can quickly settle the softwood lumber issue. If he can, in Canada’s favour, I’m prepared to understand the move. If not, I won’t.

#75 George O'Dair on 02.10.06 at 10:26 pm

Irked? Yes, I’m irked. But, I want to see why Harper did it before I blow off steam. I’m not entirely sure that playing the “independent-minded” card, right now, was wise. Guess time will tell. Hate to see you use your talents unwisely and limit any future powers to press conferences. I want to see if Emerson can quickly settle the softwood lumber issue. If he can, in Canada’s favour, I’m prepared to understand the move. If not, I won’t.
Oops, didn’t mean to close off.
Is Emerson an opportunist? Of course he is, he’s a politician. But, in this case, he just might be taking an opportunity to make a difference to Canada and to jobs in Canada. In the end, on this important issue, this end might just justify the means.
Good luck.

#76 charles campagna on 02.10.06 at 10:27 pm

MP Turner, you are in my opinion, a politician who understands why he’s there! A modern statesman, one of very few. You do the memory of Chuck Cadman justice, I just hope you don’t change. We need more like you, to provide a model for the future, and for those new Members. I can only hope you are infectious. Thanks for doing your job,
Charlie C.

#77 Ted on 02.10.06 at 10:59 pm

You’re very respectable Garth. Your actions are the only PROOF that once in a while, politicians can act on what they believe in. Shame on the other Conservative MPs that agree with you, but are keeping quiet.

#78 HJ on 02.10.06 at 11:10 pm

It is always interesting to see and read how quickly all the lofty principles fly out the window.

PM Harper isn’t harping anymore, he now does exactly what he said he wouldn’t do.

Hmmmmmmmmm looks and sounds just as wishy-washy as most Liberals I know!

#79 Phil McNichol on 02.10.06 at 11:35 pm

On the surface the Emerson appointment looks like the worst kind of cynical politicking: Harper and Emerson thumbing their noses, not just at the voters of his riding who voted Liberal, but also at every other voter in the country. The message to all voters is, see your vote doesn’t really mean much. We here in the PMO’s office get to make the big decisions. Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for us. But has any body considered what the real Long-term strategy behind the appointment might be? Why isn’t Harper out defending it? Why is so much of the focus on Emerson? Is it possible the whole idea is just to show how untrustworthy Liberals are? Is the message really aimed at voters in the next election who, when they cast their ballots will wonder if their Liberal candidate will cross the floor two weeks after he gets elected, if he gets elected? Is it all about undermining and providing yet another example of Liberal ethics, or lack of them? think this just might be leaving Canadian voters with some lingering distrust, but more of Liberal candidates, rather than Harper and the Conservatives. You got to hand it to the guy. He’s smart. But don’t forget his weakness. He likes things to go his way. If they don’t, he picks up his marbles and goes home to pout for a while. Now that he’s the boss he finally gets to do what he wants. He’s going to show them, just you wait. Nobody’s going to tell him what he can or can’t do anymore. Just exactly who, or what, have Canadians elected Prime Minister with less than 40 per cent of the popular vote? I tell you, this is all starting to look just a little scary, a little dictatorial in style. Keep up the good work Garth. If you can’t be a member of cabinet or the inner circle, the next best thing is a rebel in caucus, until they throw you out, if they throw you out. Keep ‘em honest, be a thorn in their sides. Nothing personal Garth, but I’d hate to see you guys get a majority in the next election. Harper and the Conservatives, especially some of those really far-out ones, definitely need checks and balances. I can’t help wondering already after just week in office, how much damage a Harper majority government could do.

#80 Randy mb. on 02.10.06 at 11:47 pm

Great Job Garth. Your wife should be proud of you, I know I and the vast majority of the posters here are. As for those that are bitter and ragging on you, well they are showing just how low life their morals are.

#81 Hannibal on 02.12.06 at 2:37 pm

A load of typical neo-con drivel so blinded by their arrogance(stupidity) they can’t see that Harper is finished before he even gets started on remaking Canada in the image of redneck Alberta .
Don’t cry too hard when you have to open your wallet for healthcare and children are left to fend fdor themselves.
The $1200. per year is taxable income which means a net of $388.00 per year .
Grow up you stiffs.

#82 Mentally Wandering Avatar on 02.12.06 at 11:54 pm

Nice Garth….extra kudos on my own blog.

#83 Hannibal on 02.13.06 at 11:50 am

I am struck by the fact that the most vociferous nasty attacks are coming from Garth’s own party the Neo-Cons .
I have heard that the Cons eat their own young but have never been exposed to a display more blatant .
Cut Harper some slack.Never. He does not deserve the office that he inhabits now .
He couldn’t wait to tear off the mask of deceit he has worn for these many months hammering the electorate with tales of morals ,ethics and corruption.
NOt to mentio the juvenille Western Standards Librano’s; comparing the Liberals to the Soprano’s.
No Garth just keep pecking away at Harper his credibility with Canadians is below zero and will remain there .
Do not forget that Paul Martin is still around to be counted on should the need arise .
I smell another 1993, disaster in the Neo-cons future .
And once again it will be well deserved.
The paint is already peeling off the Reform/Alliance wagon .

#84 Hannibal on 02.15.06 at 4:40 pm

Lets send Harper and the entire cabinet hunting with Dick Cheyney .

#85 Jackie Chans Left Hand on 11.16.06 at 3:25 pm

Garth do you still maintain that the neo-con’s will be in power for a generation ?
Just wondering as that is what you told me back in February .
Personally I believe they will be tossed in the next election and Canadian’s being tired of minority government will honour them with a majority .
That is unless you can resurrect the true Progressive Conservative party.
The one of Mcdonald et al .