Freedom of speech

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Often MPtv is the only media outlet (well, maybe that’s exaggerating our description a tad) to actually haul its ass out in the cold and cover events taking place on Canada’s front lawn – the expanse outside the Centre Block on Parliament Hill. That is where the Sergeant-at-arms allows demonstrations to take place, usually under the watchful eye of the RCMP.

Obviously, people come there to be seen by their government. But, usually, that does not happen. And such was the case when the Khmerkrom-Canadian Community showed up to talk about religious persecution of Buddhist monks in South Vietnam. Buddist monk, the Venerable Dhammo Tach Truong was there, but no MPs and no ministers.

mptvsmall5.jpg Why should you care about these guys? Because we all should. Taking your cause to Parliament Hill, within sniffing distance of the tailpipes of the prime minister’s motorcade is what this great country’s all about.

To view the video, click here.

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#1 James - Chatham on 03.14.07 at 8:24 pm

Taking your cause to Parliament Hill, within sniffing distance of the tailpipes of the prime minister’s motorcade is what this great country’s all about. – Garth

Are you saying demostrations can take place in front of the Peace Tower while the House is sitting? If so we should consider ourselves extremely luck.

Back in the late 70’s, due to rising tuition costs (ever heard this one before?) the British students, of which I was one, marched on Parliament. Because the House was sitting, the demonstration was told to disperse at Vauxhall Bridge, some 5Km away. And if ever you’ve seen a mounted police charge, you move on pretty damn quick when you see the horses. And yes, the beasties were in attendance!

#2 the fed sux on 03.14.07 at 8:48 pm

Gorgie girl, got some news for your house shopping kids.

Coming soon to a Cdn theater near you

30 US subprime mortgage companies in bankruptcy. Mortgage defaults up to historical highs.

Add that into Cdn speculators heading for the nearest exit and what have you got? 1980

#3 the fed sux on 03.14.07 at 9:24 pm

Garth

Protests, demonstrations, petitions and even writing to your MP is moving over to the Internet. Lots of trolls, sure why not. It doesn`t take long to weed out the information from the trolls that post hourly while saying nothing of consequence.

The media has also lost it grip. More and more people are looking at all the bits and pieces rather than letting the presstitutes interpellate and define what we should think.

Just like the statscan report. The presstitutes where announcing youth crime rates were down when in fact is was the rate of incarceration. Youth crime is up because the new/old YOA has failed and it`s failed because the Liberals didn`t do what they said they would do, `get to the root cause`.
They didn`t get it done.

Crime rates don`t go down because you don`t arrest anyone for commiting a crime, they go up and they will continue to go up until someone `gets it done`.

#4 Hanh Nguyen on 03.14.07 at 10:37 pm

What do you mean by Khmerkrom? Do you really understand what’s does it mean? The Khmer separatists use Khmerkrom to specify the whole South Vietnam, including the biggest city in Vietnam, Saigon. It’s kind like considering California, Texas belong to Mexico.

Remember that the majority of Vietnamese population are Buddhists too. And they are under the same persecution. These people just want to use religion to stir up racial and political agenda.

The information here was provided to MPtv staff by the participants. — Garth

#5 Georgine on 03.15.07 at 4:23 am

Sheesh Fed, It’s after 1am here and I was painting walls all day and I thought I’d bop in and see what’s up before I lay my tired head on my pillow and there you are with happy (not) news for me.

Actually, everything my (half vietnames) son-inlaw and I have read has said that while the US is slowing down it’s not crashing and not affecting other markets as badly as feared. Canada is still humming along nicely. Edmonton is HOT. Vancouver is still the most expensive in the country (damn) up another 8% this year. And interest rates look to stay stable for the next 2 years. And the kids are not going to over extend. They have a good downpayment and they both work. But thank you for your concern.

Read the link re the kids you gave yesterday/this morning. It seems so long ago now. That was only a synopsis of the actual report you know.

I don’t understand. Do you want to lock up the kids?

G’night, I’m sleeping in tomorrow. I overdid it today. Sleep well everyone. Happy dreams.

#6 the fed sux on 03.15.07 at 8:39 am

Georgine

lol I hardly know where to start.

Interest rates look stable for the next two years,,,,so?

True, interest rate hikes did put buyers on hold in the 80`s but it was speculators heading for the door that caused the price collapse. Today 45% of Vancouver condos are owned by speculators while the number of used condos on the market increased by 67% last month, you know, as in `heading for the door`. All this is happening while interest rates remain stable. Gee what else could put the brakes on buyers? High prices? (“Vancouver is still the most expensive in the country (damn) up another 8% this year.”). lol prices are up, buyers are down but interest rates are still low enough to take a big gamble. yep it`s no big deal. Realtors must love you.

Yes Canada is humming along on oil and raw resources but how many hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs have been replaced by minimum wage service jobs and government expansion? We had a hiccup in the global economy 3 weeks ago, did you miss it or consider what a down turn would do. I see copper futures are up a dime this morning nudging a 300% increase in 2 years. Well not to worry about inflation, interest rates look stable, roflmao, realtors must be beating a path to your door.

I don`t know where you got the idea I was promoting locking up kids, seems right out of the blue even for you. I did read the report, was there something I missed?

#7 Bill-Muskoka on 03.15.07 at 9:50 am

The Fed Sux,

“Add that into Cdn speculators heading for the nearest exit and what have you got? 1980″

YEP! As the earth circles the sun, so do the 10 year ‘adjustments’ designed into the pseudo economic ‘theory’ (NOTE it is a theory, not a fact!) which allows the unscrupulous to glean off massive profits at everyone else’s expense.

That is why there are the big sell-offs…it is the pre-crash conversion of paper wealth to currency by insiders who are part of the plan. They literally create the panic selling, and laugh all they way to the bank with the cash.

Ever see ‘Trading Places’ with Dan Akroyd? ‘Pork bellies’…how appropriate!

#8 the fed sux on 03.15.07 at 10:39 am

Hi Bill,

Yes they are laughing all the way to the bank and will return with cash when the market bottoms out.
I wouldn`t say they create the panic selling unless you`re referring to all the specs heading for the door at the same time. I follow the logic they profit from panic buying and heading for the door when that ends. Last summer people were bidding up the price while this year the`re bidding the price down so even though prices are up what is up, asking price or closing price? I love that line `housing will remain strong till interest rates head up`. lol, hiking interest rates only stall the market. The housing market speculators all heading for the door together collapses the market. The data paints a worse picture speculation wise than 1980. I`m surprised it`s hung it as long as it has but then again the number of units for sale is increasing rapidly while the time frame from list to close is increasing.

Cdns are over mortgaged, undersaved and deeper in debt than ever before but, lol, nothing to worry about as long as that sea of low interest oil money keeps everyone liquid.

Seems the crew in this article is more worried about where interest rates are now let alone what the future inflation numbers hold but wait, lol, what`s that great line? “We`ll be ok as long as interest rates remain stable”.

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http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/070315/markets_stocks.html?.v=6

Market slips as inflation worry resurfaces
Thursday March 15, 9:38 am ET
NEW YORK (Reuters) – Stocks slipped at the open on Thursday as investors worried that the Federal Reserve won’t cut interest rates any time soon following a higher-than-expected rise in February producer prices.
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Georgine, As long as interest rates are stable I have some land in on the coast you might be interested in. Beach front and you can see most of the property at low tide.

#9 C. B. Innes on 03.15.07 at 11:02 am

It does appear that the focus of our new government is promoting the oil and resource boom to compensate for the loss of manufacturing jobs. While exports are holding strong factory output has fallen by seven times what was expected according to a report on television today.

Does this focus on oil merely reflect Harper’s idealization of Alberta? He once decribed that province as having: “opted for the best of Canada’s heritage — a combination of American enterprise and individualism with the British traditions of order and co-operation.” Alberta is responsible for 40 per cent of green house gas emissions in Canada today and intensity targets will allow that to increase. It is a good thing that a some Albertans are aware of what is happening in and to their province.

I can get no sense that Harper has any in depth understanding of even the ideology he has promoted for years. Individualism is in direct opposition to family and community values. Selfishness does not provide positive social outcomes as he suggests although it may, in the short term, give him the political outcome he craves.

#10 Bill-Muskoka on 03.15.07 at 11:16 am

My, how interesting to see that they are fighting amongst themselves now.

Global warming gap among evangelicals widens

There are those who believe that mankind has a stewardship duty to the planet, and they are vehemently opposed by those who believe that mankind is free to pillage to their hearts content, regardless of the cost to others.

What would Jesus say? I think something like ‘SHUT UP and get with the program Bozos! This is it, all you are getting, and all you need…Take good care of it!’

These narcissistic twits are the power base behind the neo-con movement. They want it all to end, but not have to have any discomfort themselves before it does. They must be stopped before they take us all down with them in their insanity!

There is a light shining forth, but the darkness has been horrid “Rev. Paul de Vries, said, “It ought to be God’s agenda, not the Republican Party’s agenda, that drives us.

“We’re actually tired of being represented by people with a very narrow focus,” he said. “We want to have a focus as big as God’s focus.”

I hope people stop and think about what the Reform/Alliance Party really stands for because they are the one’s with a very narrow focus.

#11 mhb on 03.15.07 at 12:52 pm

What would Jesus say? I think something like ‘SHUT UP and get with the program Bozos!

Actually, I bet He would denounce the likes of Al Gore and David Suzuki as false prophets, and then chase the moneygrabbers (in this case, Kyoto advocates) out of the temple.

mhb23re
[at gmail d0t calm]

#12 mhb on 03.15.07 at 1:01 pm

… and Maurice Strong would be the first one booted out the front door.

mhb23re

#13 the fed sux on 03.15.07 at 1:32 pm

CB

“While exports are holding strong factory output has fallen by seven times what was expected according to a report on television today.”

Lets not forget this has been happening mostly under the Liberal watch. International investment went to 0 with the messiah Paul Martin taking the helm. So much for his financial miracles, the only Cdn ship that didn`t hit the rocks was flying a bohemian flag.

#14 Bill-Muskoka on 03.15.07 at 2:21 pm

mhb,

“Actually, I bet He would denounce the likes of Al Gore and David Suzuki as false prophets, and then chase the moneygrabbers (in this case, Kyoto advocates) out of the temple.”

I was thinking more you would be the one he would be saying it to…by your own words. Nice try.Today is a special…Three posts for free! Oi Vay! Such a deal it is!

#15 Georgine on 03.15.07 at 4:30 pm

g’morning all,
Fed, I bought my first house in ‘79 so I remember ‘80 and after very well. C. (my daughter) was 6 months old. The last house on the north shore for under 50,000! Now it would go for 500,000 if not more. Location!

Anyway, I was not saying all will be rosey because interest rates will stay low for a couple of years. I was very tired and I was also thinking of my other kids who are wanting to buy but are going to wait as they are not as in as good as a position as C and her husband. But the point being…enough about my kids. They do know what they are doing. They are moving out of Vancouver. They are not buying a condo. A lot of what you are saying is assumption.

And thanks for the offer of waterfront but I’ll pass.

I should tell my kids to worry about copper futures when all they want is a home??

Why so doom and gloom about everything??

And yeah. From the sounds of things you want to lock up the kids. State just what you want for them. Clearly and succintly please. I am still tired and I don’t want to read more stats can stuff.

You say it in your words, clearly, without anger, ok?

oh sh*t! it’s 1:30!! I did sleep in!!

g’afternoon all!!

#16 Georgine on 03.15.07 at 4:52 pm

Regarding the Khmer Krom, I did just a little bit of digging and what I learned is there is yet another group of people who could only wish to have our problems that we carry on about so passionatly.

Beginning in the 17th century, the colonization of the area by Vietnamese settlers migrating south has isolated the Khmer from their brethren in Cambodia proper and resulted in the native Khmer becoming a minority in that part of their homeland.
Prey Nokor was the most important commercial port to the Khmers. It began as a small fishing village known as Prey Nokor. The area that the city now occupies was originally swampland, and was inhabited by Khmer people for centuries before the arrival of the Vietnamese.
The city’s name was changed by Vietnam to Saigon and then Ho Chi Minh City.

Many independent NGOs have reported that the human rights of the Khmer Krom are being violated by the Vietnamese government. Khmer Krom are reportedly forced to adopt Vietnamese family names and Vietnamese language. {2} Education of Khmer Krom is neglected and they face many hardships in everyday life, such as difficult access to Vietnamese health services (recent epidemics of blindness affecting children have been reported in the predominantly Khmer Krom areas of the Mekong delta[citation needed]), difficulty in practicing their religion (Khmer Krom are Theravada Buddhists, like Cambodian and Thai people, but unlike Vietnamese who are Mahayana Buddhists or Catholics), difficulty in finding jobs outside of the fields, and societal racism.[citation needed] The Khmer Krom are the poorest segment of the population in southern Vietnam.[citation needed]
Unlike other minority people groups of Vietnam, the Khmer Krom are largely unknown in the western world, despite efforts by associations of exiled Khmer Krom such as the Khmer Kampuchea Krom Federation to publicize their issues with the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organisation. No western government has raised the matter of the Khmer Krom’s human rights with the Vietnamese government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Krom

also a handful of links including to the site that they spoke of in the MPTV video which has tons more information.

Not just :These people just want to use religion to stir up racial and political agenda. as Hanh Nguyen on 03.14.07 10:37 pm puts it. Not really so simple as that at all.

#17 Ve. Kimthan Srey on 03.15.07 at 6:22 pm

Dear sir
Millions of people in our homeland watched the site, millions of people in our homeland say thank you to your team, millions of people love your job.

successful and healthy
Ven. Kimthan Srey

#18 Bill-Muskoka on 03.15.07 at 6:23 pm

Georgine,

Good post. Try comparing their movement to the Khmer Rouge as well.

#19 mhb on 03.15.07 at 6:31 pm

Muskox Bill:

I tried to decipher your last post, but gave up; it was gibberish.

See, Jesus would denounce Big Al and Davey-boy because, unlike moi, they’re the ones who’ve set up a new false religion (“Gaia”, “eco-zealotry”, “AGW”, or whatever you like), with themselves as self-styled prophets, demanding obeisance from the little people (that’d be you and me, Bill).

I took a bit of literary license and changed “moneylenders” to “moneygrabbers”, but in hindsight, I didn’t need to. See, the likes of Maurice Strong & the other Kyoto-fanatics have set up their carbon credit agencies to basically extort from the people (again, “us”). This applies to Al Gore, too, as he’s in the enviable position of using 20x the energy of the average American household, and then reduces his carbon footprint by selling/buying carbon credits to himself.

Get it now, Bill? Are you always this perceptive?

mhb23re

#20 the fed sux on 03.15.07 at 6:50 pm

Georgine

Don`t mistake frustration or concern for anger.

When making an large investment such as buying a house including the speculation in condos as part of the overall housing market is just sound financial management. It`s really up to you what you consider important.

As far as what I want from the children or more accurately for the children PMSH all ready knows but there is one loose thread. I would like an answer from Vic Toews on why sole custody went up instead of down after McLellan gave him instruction to abide by the report `For the Sake`. According to the federal justice web site she travelled across Canada giving that message to every provincial attorney general of which Toews was the AG for Manitoba at the time.

It seems to me that Mr. Toews is involved in obstruction of justice, perhaps that`s why he was shuffled.

#21 Georgine on 03.15.07 at 7:02 pm

Yes Bill, I saw the links, but I’m going to babysit the g’babes tonight so losing myself in link to link to link (as I am wont to do on occasion, it’s so much fun:) will have to wait. I have barbi’s and starwars and lego and drawing to do tonight instead.

I did wander into SDA and other scary places this afternoon. Wow Garth, you have a fan? in HaltonVoter. He has a blog totally devoted to you. Scary scary place. I think he needs to get out more. SDA loves you and Jackie, Bill. Special mentions tho they think you may not be real. lol.

must fly.

#22 C. B. Innes on 03.15.07 at 7:06 pm

“Lets not forget this has been happening mostly under the Liberal watch. International investment went to 0 with the messiah Paul Martin taking the helm. So much for his financial miracles, the only Cdn ship that didn`t hit the rocks was flying a bohemian flag.”

By the fed sux on 03.15.07 1:32 pm

This is not exactly correct because foreign investment in the form of buyouts has continued. You also must remember that Stephen Harper and the Reform Party constantly pushed the Liberal Party in that direction. He credited the Reform Party and the National Citizens’ Coalition with influencing the direction of the Liberal party. It is not surprising then that he would continue Martin’s economic direction.

In those days Harper’s criticism of the Liberals was that they did not cut deep enough in social spending and he applauded where it did. For example he once said: “On the positive side…. Universality has been severely reduced: it is virtually dead as concept in most areas of public policy. The family allowance programme has been eliminated….” His reintroduction of family allowances was a major policy flip flop for him.

I don’t see the Harper Government doing anything different from the Martin government. In fact, he is doing exactly as Martin did before the last election promising billions of dollars in a hodge podge of programs that seem poorly thought out and spur of the moment. To fiscal conservatives like myself this looks like the same kind of desperation that characterized Martin’s period as Prime Minister.

Prime Minister Harper is beginning to look a lot like Prime Minister Martin!!

#23 the fed sux on 03.15.07 at 7:20 pm

CB

“This is not exactly correct because foreign investment in the form of buyouts has continued.”

Actually it is correct. The only investment and buy outs occurred in companies involved in global demand, oil and raw resources. As a matter of fact even Cdn unions are investing in foreign companies off shore, not in Cdn companies.

Wonder how Jack explains that one, unions using union members money to create off shore jobs while these same members are losing theirs. Perhaps that`s why he lost his smile.

#24 Kerry B on 03.15.07 at 7:52 pm

CB.
Exactly, the media during the last campaign said the Liberals and the Conservatives were essentially the same in terms of their platforms. Thats why I laugh so much reading posts stating how much better one party is and the other the devil incarnate. To my disappointment of the Conservatives, other than the names, not much has changed.
Kerry

#25 C. B. Innes on 03.15.07 at 8:40 pm

As a matter of fact even Cdn unions are investing in foreign companies off shore, not in Cdn companies.

Wonder how Jack explains that one, unions using union members money to create off shore jobs while these same members are losing theirs. Perhaps that`s why he lost his smile.

By the fed sux on 03.15.07 7:20 pm

The fact that Labour Unions are involved supports my case. The NDP has lost all creditablity on these issues. At one time at least a person knew what they stood for but not today. The day that I heard a leading NDP strategist advocate the use of private-public partnerships (the term created by Liberals for privatization) to develop and manage urban infrastructure (e.g. water, sewer, etc.) I realized that they had lost their way. Maybe they were looking for new investments for labour unions!!!!

The high Canadian dollar has slowed the growth of buyouts by U.S. concerns but they appear to be still taking place even if they are resource companies if the newspaper articles are accurate (I admit I have not seen the most recent statistics which are probably not yet available). The flow of Canadian owned companies to lower wage environments is another factor such as the Hershey move to Mexico.

By following the U.S. economic path we will eventually face the same challenges they now face. We are lucky enough to still have some commodities to keep our trade in surplus. If the demand for our commodities falls we have very little to fall back on.

Today the news came out that for the first time since records were kept in the U.S. (1929) foreign investors took more money out of the U.S. than U.S. investors earned in foreign markets. This means that all of the U.S. economic accounts are now in deficit. I would suggest that this is a major warning for Canada: the grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence.

#26 Bill-Muskoka on 03.15.07 at 8:48 pm

Georgine.

WHAT? No ‘Hungry Hippos’? No puzzles? No Nana come play with me? LOL Being a GP is so much hilarious fun. Our oldest GS (4) is highly adept at whomping us in ‘Sorry’, then saying it with soooooooo much meening! LMAO!

#27 C. B. Innes on 03.15.07 at 9:02 pm

Re comments by the fed sux on 03.15.07 7:20 pm

Up to August there were 65 Canadian companies sold to foreign owners. I believe two of those were Hudson’s Bay and Fairmont Hotels so not all were resource based.

#28 the fed sux on 03.15.07 at 10:23 pm

CB

“foreign investors took more money out of the U.S. than U.S. investors earned in foreign markets.”
Do you have a link?
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There is a difference in buy outs verses investment as few buy outs involve investment. As we`re telling the whole story there have been 2 actual investments in Canada over the time discussed. Linamare and Honda both receiving massive amount of our dollars to put in some of theirs and Linamare was started over 2 years ago and isn`t doing so well with Honda on the verge of changing their minds.

As I predicted 6 years ago Canada will be shunned by international investors. The year that I started telling the whole story Canada lost $15 billion in investment to Mexico. Investors including our own Cdn unions know Canada is one of the worse places on the planet to invest. Pretty much explains the ongoing financial crisis in central Canada and if we get more than a hiccup in the global economy it`ll spread than a government cover-up.

#29 Georgine on 03.16.07 at 2:17 am

Fed,

I would like an answer from Vic Toews on why sole custody went up instead of down after McLellan gave him instruction to abide by the report `For the Sake`.

Thanks for that. And if you had said it somewhere before I must have missed it and I’m sorry but now I know.

Bill,

Mine are 5 and 6 and the agenda for the evening was laid out before I arrived. I had to bring my “good” drawing stuff. I have the BIG box of crayons and really good paper. GS has an impressive load of lego and GD is into everything princesses. We played operation last week. I lost terribly!! LOL Oh yeah, and we read about 6 stories and before I left I had to do a Nanny McFee and make ghosts in the closet go away. I have a gnarled old wooden cane that looks just right. So I worked a little magic and off to sleep they went. I am a very cool Bubby.

I am tired!

As to everything I read above…will any of it matter when we are all one Security and Prosperity Zone and Alberta is pumping 5 fold more, the enviroment be damned, to keep our “southern zone” running smoothly?

Just asking.

#30 C. B. Innes on 03.16.07 at 8:59 am

It is only natural that in a globalized economy in order to maximize profits investors will invest in areas with the lowest incomes, few or no regulations, etc.

This will continue until labour in these areas began to reach an income level that will encourage them to seek better wages and working conditions.

This is capitalist freedom at work. It concentrates wealth in the hands of global capital through the concept of profit maximization. I have so far not found a link to the TV story out yesterday but during my search it appears that while U.S. investors are investors are investing globally, foreign investors are taking over the U.S. economy.

The problem in coming up with good data seems to be that governments do not divide true investment from takeovers.

One major impact of globalization is the use of corporate blackmail to draw investment. Governments around the world are being blackmailed into special concessions for attracting the large players if they want investment.

At the same time you cannot even tell the whole story by looking at where head offices are located. Canadian companies like Air Canada, CN, Petro-Canada, Encana are believed to be majority foreign owned. To be honest, I don’t believe we know enough about is happening to make any kind of informed judgements.

I would like your opinion on what we need to do to attract positive investment?

#31 the fed sux on 03.16.07 at 10:41 am

CB

“The problem in coming up with good data seems to be that governments do not divide true investment from takeovers.”

It`s worse than that. Just as an example the statscan report on youth incarcerations was touted by the presstitutes as `youth crime is down`. All we get is one lie after another. Pay down the debt is another, the US is running huge deficits but also have the largest amount of investor funds.

In a recent global study on corrupt government Ottawa was right up there. I could easily list a dozen more.

“It is only natural that in a globalized economy in order to maximize profits investors will invest in areas with the lowest incomes, few or no regulations, etc.”

Agreed, China is the best example but we have many advantages over China. Close proximity to not only the largest global customer but to raw resources. What we are lacking is investment creating productivity gain problems so there`s definitely more to the story.

There are solutions but none Ottawa is willing to look at. The one we should be looking at is do we need an elected federal government? The answer is no, we don`t.

.

#32 C. B. Innes on 03.16.07 at 11:51 am

There are solutions but none Ottawa is willing to look at. The one we should be looking at is do we need an elected federal government? The answer is no, we don`t.

By the fed sux on 03.16.07 10:41 am

Are you one of those ideologues who opposes democracy and believes that those who achieve the most success in the market place are entitled to govern in their own interests? The extreme right has been moving in that direction for some time.

Or do you support the division of the country into ten or more independent states. This would be similar to one of Harper’s previous beliefs that it would be preferable to our current system.

#33 the fed sux on 03.16.07 at 1:18 pm

CB

First, what democracy?

Second and although my personal ideology has squat to do with anything I`m a populist.

Third where did you get the idea I would support division of the country into ten or more independent, don`t know where you got that from but it wasn`t me.

Fourth I wouldn`t have offered the solution on how to feed the worlds hungry if I thought the most successful in the market place are entitled to govern in their own interests.

Stop making things up as you go and I`ll continue this discussion with you.

#34 C. B. Innes on 03.16.07 at 3:43 pm

“The one we should be looking at is do we need an elected federal government? The answer is no, we don`t.”

By the fed sux on 03.16.07 10:41 am

Don’t get your dander up. I was just trying to figure out what you meant by the above.

I might agree that representative democracy is currently failing us but that does not mean that we should abolish elected government. In a world that is driven by corporate globalization we have to retain some means of self-preservation.

#35 the fed sux on 03.16.07 at 6:11 pm

CB

No dander up. I`m not proposing we abolish elected government, only the federal one. We still have provincial ones that are not only duly elected but are more than capable of filling Ottawa with hired people that can deal with our national and international interests. Nice thing about hiring people to do the federal work, they can be fired and they won`t be kicking off an election campaign on their first day in Ottawa. It`s been tried and it works.

#36 C. B. Innes on 03.16.07 at 7:50 pm

With the way our provinces currently get along with each other I suspect we would have civil war!!!!

One of the main reasons we have a federal government today is because of the stalmate created when two provinces lined up against each other. Can you imagine the in-fighting we would have among bureaucrats who would see their jobs as protecting the interests of the province that hired them?

The situation is bad enough now but it seems to me this solution would make things even worse.

#37 the fed sux on 03.16.07 at 8:13 pm

lol CB, worse than it is now, too funny man.

It`s not a top priority for to work towards an unelected federal government. I can wait till the country splits. You should move out west to Cana, I don`t think things will be rosy in Da

#38 C. B. Innes on 03.16.07 at 9:43 pm

Once upon a time I through my part of Canada should separate but as I grew older I realized that we are all much stronger working together than apart. I traveled across this country last summer and I felt I belonged everywhere I went. It takes that experience to realize how lucky we are.

#39 Bill-Muskoka on 03.16.07 at 10:45 pm

C.B. Innes,

“I traveled across this country last summer and I felt I belonged everywhere I went.”

My experience as well. I have lived from the arctic to Alberta to Ontario. Canadians, and real Canadian values. Our Canada!

#40 the fed sux on 03.16.07 at 11:06 pm

CB

Just think how much more appreciation you`ll have when you discover the road you traveled between Toronto and Ottawa is only a fraction of the road across this country.

I`ve visited countries where cities were surrounded by 3k of poverty. After the first k furniture tapered off with walls of made of whatever could be scrounged. The farther out you got the worse it was and yet anyone living in a Darfur death camp would trade places in a heartbeat.

While I have ever reason to be a proud Canadian I`m not ever going to be proud of a corrupt government.

You can live on your knees if you want but I`d prefer to die on my feet.

#41 C. B. Innes on 03.17.07 at 10:30 am

Our society has many elements to it that you could call “corrupt” both public and private. That corruption can become even more ingrained when the general public idealize their own region and ignore the corruption under their own noses.

It depends on how a person might define corruption. For example, I consider the way the Canadian Alliance and Progressive Conservatives were “merged” as highly corrupt while others dismiss that corruption as “just politics.”

In my opinion, Alberta is facing real challenges. You can blame the federal government for corruption while at the same time idealizing provincial governments or the private sector who many believe are just as corrupt or even more so.

Political partisans may point to corrupt practices by other parties and ignore the corrupt practices of their own.

Personally, I don’t see the federal government as corrupt although, like any large organization, there are probably corrupt individuals within government circles because power attracts the already corrupt.

#42 the fed sux on 03.17.07 at 11:35 am

CB

you wrote; “Personally, I don’t see the federal government as corrupt”.

I don`t know if it`s your attitude or situation that makes you one of the few lucky people that can afford the preverbal blinders. Yes you are a member of that elite group of 7% of Canadians that trust our federal politicians.

Unfortunately I`m one of the 93% that prefers solutions rather than rather than insulation from the truth, even if I could afford it.

Just a word of advice, as you are only part of 7% speaking to 97% that require solutions your posts sound like the bleating of a sheep. You make it appear that those of us that want a far better Canada are attacking you and are putting the in danger bubble you live in. Sorry about any inconvenience but were committed so to be truthful your posts sound cowardly.

Your not alone, others feel threatened by what it`s going to take, it just shows up in different forms. Denial or name calling, this blog has more than a few that would rather hold on to the status quo rather take a courageous step forward.

It`s just what it means to be Cdn: Rather have a good news lie than bad news truth.

#43 the fed sux on 03.17.07 at 12:11 pm

CB

Before you get your dander up consider this.

You blamed the globalism of commerce on the current state of the Cdn economy when globalism increasingly benefits Canadians. Consumers could have benefited more had not Ottawa intentionally devalued our currency giving Cdn companies a huge artificial advantage over American companies. Intentionally devaluing our currency cost our economy well over a trillion dollars (that`s out of our pockets) just to benefit a few exporters.

What did these `friends of Ottawa` do with the windfall profits? Did they reinvest, did they retool or build newer factories? No they shipped the cash off shore. What did American companies do with the windfall cash of the tech boom, they retooled. Reinvesting since 9/11 has created the biggest productivity gains since incorporation of the assembly line. You can`t blame globalism when it was the lack of faith by Cdn companies to reinvest in Canada, you blame the government.

The fact of the matter we not only have raw resources at close proximity we are neighbours to the largest customer on the planet. We should be able to compete even if our dollar was higher than the US buck which btw would give Cdn consumers even more buying power.

Ottawa was behind this so are you sure you don`t see this as government corruption and not just a few rotten apples?