Politicians need to be good talkers. They need to be better listeners. The only true job an MP has is to represent people, and carry their voices to Parliament.
This is why I like public meetings, Town Halls. We are still humans, after all, and exchanging electrons is not the same as looking in an eye, shaking a hand or listening to a voice.
Over the coming four weeks I plan to be doing a lot of that. I’d be pleased to have you join me.
We should have all the meetings nailed down by next Tuesday for my visit to Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta and BC. I’ll post the sked here.
And, starting this Sunday, there will be another series of Town Halls in Halton, bringing to thirty the number offered since the election early last year. Given the economy, Afghanistan, the environment, the next budget and everything else going on, there’s lots to talk about. I plan to be doing much lobbying on tax matters when Parliament gears up again – and your input would be most useful.
Sunday, August 19, Nassagaweya Community Centre, Guelph Line, Brookville, 3 pm.
Monday, August 20, Tansley Woods Library, Burlington, 7 pm.
Tuesday, August 21 (my 36th anniversary), Oakville Town Hall, 7 pm.
Thursday, August 23, Hugh Foster Hall, Milton, 7 pm.
Saturday, August 25, Ella Foote Hall, Kilbride, 3 pm.
Esther has details, and she’s organizing the trip west: (905) 693-0166, esther@garth.ca.
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Mr. Garth TurnerMP,
If anyone else is worried about the SPP deal and want to be counted you can sign a petition against the so called ‘Security and Sposperity Partnership (SPP) of North America
at http://secure.greenparty.ca/spp.php
Do we really want to be locked in with the greatest debtor nation on the planet, that’s just for starters!
Why you might need to worry about the SPP, some info. at, http://www.greenparty.ca/en/policy/documents/deeper_look_spp?origin=redirect
I for one don’t trust PMSH or G W Bush to tell us what the SPP, or anythng else for that mater, is realy all about.
Why all the behind close door meetings?
Why isn’t the deal and changes that are being made to our regulations being debated and voted on by our MP’s in Parlement?
Why not ask the people to vote on the changes? Maybe it’s not such a great deal for the average person, only the top 1%, and they know they’d never be able to cell us the deal!
Why is it only the corporation that seem to be in on the deal making plans?
Do you thing they have your and your families best interest at heart? Are they looking for ways to make the quickest buck for them selfs know?
I don’t think they care or plan much past past the next quater, or the size of there yearly bonus.
Looking forward to seeing you and Esther
at one of your Town Hall meeting in Halton.
Also, Thankyou for trying to be an effective MP for everyone.
Looking forward to your meeting in Calgary. Dying to know which riding it will be in. PLEEEEEEEEASE go to Harper’s riding. I can be so evil sometimes.
The more you teach the more you learn, also means Listen to learn and learn to listen. Who’ words I do not know.
God, what a better world we would have if these words were posted in every Neo Con Office.
Millions of people hit the streets before Iraq was attacted supported by Jean Cretien, like or not he was RIGHT, and many Canadains lives were saved.
As of to-day 3702 US and 296 other lost forever, for what? My guess oil revenue and arms dealers, then again I am just an Senior Boommer who believes conflicts with Iraq/Afghanistan is wrong, dead wrong!
Greg – you might want to check out an article in today’s paper by Bogdan Kipling. Check out the last para. If he’s asking for openness, then we surely must be concerned. He’s as far right wing as you can get. Normally nothing but praise for GWB & his admin.
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Search/853737.html
Also, check out Web-exclusive comment
Where’s the transparency in the ‘Security’ and ‘Prosperity’ Partnership?
MAUDE BARLOW
Special to Globe and Mail Update
August 16, 2007 at 7:53 PM EDT
BTW, I did sign that petition the other day ans sent a note off to CPAC to see if they would cover the all-party public debate on the SPP on the eve of the leaders’ summit. Why do I think I wasted my time.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070816.wwcomment/BNStory/Front/home -
Kudos for entering the Lion’s den here, Garth. We usually only see high profile Liberals around here when they are trying to raise money.
Anyway, here’s some red meat for the many Flaherty bashers out there. Check out Jim Flaherty skates well, and is good in the corners
All of which is to say Flaherty has quite enough on his plate. But in light of the last budget, it will be very important for him to get the next one right.
Anyone who knows Flaherty, a former hockey player of some talent, can tell you three things about him. He is a consummate team player. He loves to mix it up in the corners. And he never makes the same mistake twice.
Oh my God! Hair Net Duceppe is speaking out against his supporters!
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=de4002cd-e8d1-4d6a-86fc-6af69e0d0468
Didn’t get invited? You can always go to the COUNTER SUMMIT.
http://www.greenparty.ca/en/releases/16.08.2007
“BLOG CHURN” will cause Internet Pollution! Figured that was coming. Maybe Al Gore will do a documentary on this suggesting we pay for Blog Credits.
http://www.ottawasun.com/News/National/2007/08/17/4424419-sun.html
15 years in prison and “Lit” by a senior! Congrats to the Cane and able.
http://newsdurhamregion.com/news/oshawa/article/84519
He loves to mix it up in the corners. And he never makes the same mistake twice.
By Calgary Junkie on 08.17.07 8:01 am
Really? Here are two mistakes Ontario and Ottawa.
This is NOT a hockey game, this is running the nation’s finances. It is a poor comparison of abilities, and says nothing of his qualifications to manage things as FinMin.
Calgary Junkie – L. Ian MacDonald is a “conservative” journalist who was actually the speechwriter for Brian Mulroney – he always tries to side with the conservative point of view. I take his comments with a grain of salt.
Those in Calgary just don’t understand what Ontario went through under Harris/Flaherty/Baird/Clement – it was a disaster.
Some very good posts this morning. The thing that encourages me, is that for ONCE, a unified movement seems to be evolving.
The disparaging consideration is the lack of substance from the Liberal Party. The silence is deafening.
“Better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to open one’s mouth and leave no doubt”.
The concern for average people is not to get caught in the jaws of Titans while they are snapping at each other. To maintain a bunker in which to retreat when necessary and to never stray too far from it. Levering our future via excessive debt, only increases our exposure. Remember the carrot and the donkey, aka the Ass.
I’m glad you’re getting out and putting a human face on things, Garth.
Those in Calgary just don’t understand what Ontario went through under Harris/Flaherty/Baird/Clement – it was a disaster.
By slg on 08.17.07 9:09 am
AMEN! Let’s not forget the Godfather, Ernie Eves that followed Harris’ departure.
Funny how Harris thought he was going to clean the slate by selling Ontario Hydro…Oops…deal went sour, and so did the economy.
I have a friend who worked through that period, and before under Rae. Harris was a nightmare to work for.
Then there is Ipperwash.
Where do they dig up these morons…I know the Canadian Shield is pretty impenetrable, but they must be blasting loose chunks and looking under rocks to find these creepy crawlers?
Oh well, come October 10, we will see what the people select as a better choice. Wow…Dalton McGuinty or John Tory…some choice, eh? Which is less painful?
We need another entry on the ballot ‘None of the Above’.
I liked that idea yesterday about peaceful resistance in which no one votes. Unfortunately that would be like trying to herd cats. There will always be those who will vote solely for their own interests, but never grasp the big picture.
Off to my day here.:-)
Just curious Garth – would any part of the SPP require parliamentary approval?
That question cannot be given since Parliament has never had any government legislation, or even a formal debate on this matter, presented to it. Presumably, the answer is a resounding yes, just as FTA and NAFTA required a vote. — Garth
Can you guys put aside your hatred of Flaherty for a second, and give me your take on what you predict the key features of his 2008 budget will be ? I’m assuming that Dion and Layton will reject whatever Flaherty puts in.
So that means Flaherty will have to put in stuff that will allow both Duceppe and Harper to save face with their respective bases of supporters.
“Addressing the fiscal imbalance” did the trick last time, but what will work next time ?
Is a transfer of tax points to the provinces good enough for Duceppe ?
Secondly, if Harper wants to trigger an election over the 2008 Budget, what kind of stuff should Flaherty put in that will cause the Liberals the most grief on the campaign trail ?
I’m not interested in partisan cheap shots. Give me some insightful political analysis.
I occasionally take a boo at the websites of all the parties. I have to ask – does anyone know if the Conservative website (obsessed with Dion) is designed and produced by kids. It’s tacky and poorly put together. I looks like “junk mail” advertising.
The Liberals, NDP and Green are all certainly “more adult”. I think the Liberal’s is classy, NDP – okay, but I just don’t like the wishy washy colours, but it does look like an adult website. The Grees is also okay, just a little busy, but again “adult”.
Actually, even the CPC government website looks cheap and crappy.
Just a thought,
Would CPC fortunes reverse if the Elfin Finance Minister ripped a slap shot and reversed/lowered the tax on Income Trusts and extended the term to 10 years and re-instated interest deductibility for corporations investing abroad? Maybe, but the Atlantic discord is the tightening noose.
Garth, I’m looking forward to seeing you in Regina! No communication is as effective as face to face — although you’re blog is really changing the way Canadians think about communicating with their MPs.
You share your thoughts daily; when I email my MP (Gooey Dave Batters), he takes a good 3 – 4 weeks to respond. You’d think with the company line already in place, he’d be a little faster!
So many of them just don’t get it.
Anyone who knows Flaherty, a former hockey player of some talent, can tell you three things about him. He is a consummate team player. He loves to mix it up in the corners. And he never makes the same mistake twice.
By Calgary Junkie on 08.17.07 8:01 am
You make be right, but the voters in Ontario have made the same mistake twice!
I may have missed it, Garth, but are you coming out west as far as Vancouver?? We would love to hear you speak.
Yes. Schedule published here on Tuesday or Wednesday. — Garth
SLG: The CPC website is “obsessed with Dion” because the main theme of the CPC campaign in the next election will (likely) be leadership. So it makes sense to compare and contrast Harper and Dion as much as possible.
I’m assuming the LPC campaign will focus on the LPC “dream team”. So once you guys replace your retiring MPs, I expect your website will highlight that team.
I’m glad you’re getting out and putting a human face on things, Garth.
By LoH_Numa on 08.17.07 9:38 am
Sometimes its useful to Parry and Thrust.
I liked that idea yesterday about peaceful resistance in which no one votes. Unfortunately that would be like trying to herd cats.
By Bill-Muskoka on 08.17.07 9:40 am
Ever try to make a hog go where you want him to?
Remember Bill, everything starts with an idea.
SLG,
I believe that SPP is the distraction that diverts attention from the development of the North American Union … “look what I have in this hand” while the other hand reaches behind you and picks your pocket.
The purpose of SPP, I believe, is to lay the groundwork for the NAU through the harmonization of regulations. The new Cabinet Directive on Streamlining Regulation sheds some light on how far we’ve come along, already, with very little fanfare.
Also, consider the recent steps that Mr. Bush has taken in giving himself power over regulations that affect health, worker safety and the environment.
Further, the development and or amendment of regulations are discussed and approved in committees and councils, not in parliament. For example, look at what’s happening with pesiticides that have been identified as a “trade irritant.” To improve trade, residue limits are being raised.
Finally, Mr. Harper has shown his adeptness at developing workarounds to sticky democratic, moral, official or procedural problems. For example, did Mr. Flaherty need approval to tax income trusts, a crass move to “harmonize” with the US? He didn’t need ours, anyway.
Best,
-R
For example, did Mr. Flaherty need approval to tax income trusts, a crass move to “harmonize†with the US? He didn’t need ours, anyway.
Best,
-R
By Rob Wiebe on 08.17.07 11:14 am
Ever hear of lets make a deal? We will settle softwood lumber if you stop this grope for investment. Let me think…how much was it of the 6 billion we got back?
Master move?
http://www.hfxnews.com/index.cfm?sid=54936&sc=93
Look forward to your town hall meeting in the Vancouver area. I’ll definitely have that date marked on my calendar.
Hopefully you will not be in the Vancouver area between Aug 22 and Sept 06. As much as I would like to hear and see you speak, hiking the Inca trail to Machu Picchu will be a life long experience. Hopefully no big earthquakes will hit while I am there. Regards
Ever hear of lets make a deal?
By Greg on 08.17.07 11:26 am
Yeah, Mr. Harper is the new Monty Hall. “I’ll give you $50 for a lax regulation.â€
LOL
-R
Flaherty may have played hockey like a lot of boys in Canada – but the Liberals have the real professional – Dryden.
Does hockey make one an automatic financial wizard?
By Rob Wiebe on 08.17.07 11:14 am
Thanks for the SPP post, it gets to the meat of things. Here are just a few of things I picked up that might encourage people to read further.
The Cabinet Directive on Streamlining Regulation came into effect on April 1, 2007.
The Directive is the product of over two years of collaboration between federal regulatory departments and agencies as well as thorough consultation with a wide cross-section of stakeholders including environmental and consumer groups, industry and small business, and provinces and territories. To read more about the consultation process, including summaries of all public workshops and copies of written submissions, please click on Consultation.
In the preamble;
protect and advance the public interest in health, safety and security, the quality of the environment, and the social and economic well-being of Canadians, as expressed by Parliament in legislation;
create accessible, understandable, and responsive regulation through inclusiveness, transparency, accountability, and public scrutiny;
Regulations are a form of law-they have binding legal effect and usually set out rules that apply generally, rather than to specific persons or situations.
Often referred to as “delegated” or “subordinate legislation,” regulations are made by persons to whom or bodies to which Parliament has delegated authority
· explain fully to decision makers and Canadians the nature of the issue and how its impacts change over time; and
· describe the scientific and empirical evidence, uncertainties, ethical considerations, and public views of the public policy issue.
Blend Philadelphia Lawyer and Government penchant for bureaucracy and its multi layered cousins, looks like a recipe for a witches brew.
Can’t wait to see you in Edmonton or Saskatoon (I don’t imagine you would be making a stop in Lloydminster…).
I looked at the Liberal website and saw this huge lie:
Media Releases
Dion Underlines Liberal Commitment to Publicly-funded Health Care
August 16, 2007
TORONTO – Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion reiterated his commitment to ensuring the future of Canada’s publicly-funded health care system during a roundtable and viewing of the popular documentary film Sicko with members of the Registered Nurses Association of Ontario in Toronto today.
What’s the lie you may ask? Well, it seems that Dion hasn’t said one thing about Quebec’s private clinics, wonder why? As well, what I didn’t quote was Dion mentioning Moore’s film sicko. Now that’s scary.
Garth,
Another thing you have to do is get the word out that many Canadian reporters are either toadies or incompetent. A recent example is L. IAN MACDONALD, The Gazette, 17-Aug-07, “Jim Flaherty skates well, and is good in the corners, Finance minister has made some mistakes but he still has the PM’s confidence.â€
Some mistakes??? IAN MACDONALD’S column is at:
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=a1c8766c-3f27-41d4-9ca5-b958d5093e6a
IAN MACDONALD says “Three things have been following Flaherty around – the reversal on income trusts, the nasty fight with Newfoundland and Nova Scotia over equalization, and the offshore investment tax loophole that was plugged in the last budget. The first two have resulted in Conservative losses with voters – angry investors over income trusts and angry premiers over equalization and offshore.â€
In defense of the first two of “Three thingsâ€, IAN MACDONALD “ Both were broken promises, but both arguably needed to be broken in the national economic interest of the country.â€
Arguably? What argument? The sycophants at the Globe and Financial Post are now silent on this matter, because they finally realized that they were sold the phony bill of goods that it is just terrible income trusts via registered savings plans were hollowing out corporate Canada. Who is the new white knight savior of corporate Canada? The giant government pensions funds are. So registered savings plans are being replaced, not by economically stalwart and tax-paying corporations, but tax-exempt pension funds. IAN MACDONALD, you’ve been lied to, but being in Montreal instead of Toronto or Calgary, you’re not smart enough to figure that out.
IAN MACDONALD says (about the offshore investment tax loophole) “ It’s the third one that should be troubling to Flaherty because it resulted in a loss of confidence in the finance brand in the markets.†Wrong again. If Flaherty had fixed what you call a loophole, he would have made Canadians investing abroad very uncompetitive—kind of like playing hockey with one guy always in the penalty box.
But IAN MACDONALD, you didn’t mention the parts of the budget that make it harder for Canadians in Canada to expand their businesses, and easier for foreign investors to takeover Canadian businesses.
IAN MACDONALD says “Anyone who knows Flaherty, a former hockey player of some talent, can tell you three things about him. He is a consummate team player. He loves to mix it up in the corners.â€
Flaherty a hockey player? You dare say that in Montreal? Frank Mahovlich and Ken Dryden are hockey players. And Liberals too, I might add. A guy from Montreal should really be able to tell the difference between a real hockey player and the worst Finance Minister Canada has ever had.
Garth, you’re a newspaper man. You tell the people that Canada’s major newspapers have become democratic failures. Praise the Lord for the internet and do another blog.
Actually, even the CPC government website looks cheap and crappy.
SLG, what specifcally looks cheap and crappy? The headlines? How they map the site?
What is adult about the Liberal site? When they call a minister, Harper’s puppet? Or where they criticize Harper’s leadership? (this was a sore spot with Garth when the CPC questioned Dion’s leadership)
Sean Hogan – you’ve cherry picked about Dion and the movie Sicko – he said very clearly that Moore’s portrayal of Canada’s health care was exaggerated, especially with respect to wait times. The dumb kyoto thing – c’mon what a piece of garbage. I was just wondering who they got to design it because visionally is terrible. By the way, the Dion is not a Leader thing is now quite boring, over done. They need new material. Oh, and the “New” government thing – enough already. We’ve had a formal government in Canada since 1867 head by one party or another – government is not new to Canada.
Dion is in discussions, meetings about health care with the “real” people that have to work in it – then he’ll have a position. That’s the way to do it.
Calgary Junkie – interesting comment about highlighting the dream team. Harper doesn’t outline his team because it’s all about him. Good point to bring out, thank you.
The CPC website is crappy, like it or not. Just look at it. Looks like a cheap sales flyer from a second hand store. That’s the way it is.
How were the “real people” Dion is having discussions with about ealth care selected? It strikes me that there are probably hundreds of thousands of folks employed in various elements of “health care”. Not being facetious, however our politicians have a tendency to cherrypick representatives who claim to know what lots of other people believe about things. Given the various camps in the health care sector, often with competing interests, I’d imagine he’ll get an earful.
Calgary Junkie wrote,
>what kind of stuff should Flaherty put in >that will cause the Liberals the most >grief on the campaign trail ?
Tax cuts.
Sean P wrote.
>(this was a sore spot with Garth when the >CPC questioned Dion’s leadership)
Yeah, but you know that is different. It is a ok to criticize Harper and call him every name ie inhuman, comparing him to Hitler etc in the book but to criticize Dion on anything, we just can’t have that especially on a Liberal MP’s Blog., never.
SLg.
>Dion is in discussions, meetings about >health care with the “real†people that >have to work in it – then he’ll have a >position. That’s the way to do it.
He should also have discussions with all the people who have to use it. He should also hold talks with European government health care system experts like Germany, Italy, France, Norway and so on. Maybe he will find that public and private health care can in fact work hand in hand to improve our own system. If his idea is to throw more money at our system then he is sadly mistaken because that just will not work. People forget that procedures, advances equipmnet etc hashanged so drasically since our healthcare system came into being that we simply can not afford a totally funded public health care system as it is now run.
All our politicians and health care workers, administrators and users must start looking outside the box for solutions or our system as we know it is just going to end up being a black money pit.
I would be surprised if this ever sees this blog.
This may be a little off topic but nevertheless important.
A strange thing happened on Wednesday 15 August 2007 and yet haven’t seen a thing on this blog. Guess it wasn’t good news for Dion.
Both Harper and Dion were in Caraquet NB during the Acadian festivities. Liberal MP Dominic LeBlanc said Harper and his staff used bully tactics to try and steal the spotlight from Dion at the festival. “At what should be a cultural celebration, Mr. Harper and his staff have chosen to behave like school yard bullies in a very crass, political way,” LeBlanc said. “This shouldn’t be a partisan event.” Do nothing Dominic made a fool of himself with his little out break of “foot in mouth disease”.This is just another “sour grapes” on the part of Dominic LeBlanc. New Brunswick Premier Shawn Graham wasn’t so harsh. He said it was flattering to have both federal leaders at the same event and compared it to “being on a double date.”
Harper was invited to speak where apparently Dion wasn’t. Harper made his speech in French and can be seen here.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/08/15/4420800-cp.html
Dion did have a news conference yesterday where he spoke volumes but said nothing,
His news conference yesterday was terrible, no substance, didn’t know what he was talking about all the while reading it off a paper given to him by his handlers. Harper has a clear agenda that he wants to implement while Dion has no agenda and appears to be someone stuck in years gone by. This man couldn’t carry Harper’s shoes let alone take his job. You all know this but yet continue to talk like it isn’t so. Quit trying to kid yourself, get used to it.
What was the source of your information on Caraquet? — Garth
What was the source of your information on Caraquet? — Garth
By THE SHADOW KNOWS on 08.17.07 8:17 pm
Here are the sources as requested Garth. Thanks for printing this piece. New Brunswick newspapers were all over this story with their editions of the 16th Aug.
http://timestranscript.canadaeast.com/front/article/50100
http://www.570news.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n0815101A
So, Dion commits to an event in NB weeks in advance, and is the designated keynote guest speaker. PMSH decides to jet in at the last minute and takes his speaking spot, simply due to his position. The article says Dion was “gracious” about it, standing there in the background. He’s a better man than me. I’d be pissed. Did you have a point here? — Garth
We should get the good information directly from the source.
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By Meghan Cumby
Canadaeast News Service
Published Thursday August 16th, 2007
Appeared on page A1
CARAQUET – Prime Minister Stephen Harper flew into New Brunswick’s biggest Acadian Day party in Caraquet yesterday to deliver a feel-good speech and glad hand with revelers in the street.
And while Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion was gracious about the prime minister stealing the thunder at an event Dion committed to a month ago, New Brunswick Liberal MP Dominic LeBlanc slammed Harper’s visit as all show and no substance.
…
According to officials from Dion’s office, Dion scheduled the visit two months ago and confirmed last month. Graham invited Harper to visit the Acadian Peninsula three weeks ago during a phone conversation. Harper’s officials confirmed the visit earlier in the week with the premier’s office and Dion’s officials.
Dion joked when asked about the apparent hijacking of the spotlight.
“There is nothing too nice for the Acadian people — the premier of New Brunswick, the prime minister of Canada and the future prime minister of Canada,” he said with a smile.
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How do you say ‘Touche’ in French?
PS. Meghan Cumby, good work.
Garth….You neglected to mention that the Prime Minister was invited by the Premier of New Brunswick who is a liberal. It wasn’t last minute it was three weeks prior. Dion knew the PM would be there as he was informed prior to the visit. If Dion was the keynote speaker then why was he not invited to speak? Don’t suggest that Harper bullied his way in and grabbed the microphone. Someone must have recognized him and asked him to speak. Where did it indicate that Dion was the keynote speaker?
My point is that the liberals always think they own and should set the agenda for everything. They forget that Dion is not the Prime Minister of this country. Seems you feel that the only one that should be there is Dion.
As for you being pissed, it appears that you are pissed all the time Garth wherever Harper is concerned.
Calgary Junkie wrote,
>what kind of stuff should Flaherty put in >that will cause the Liberals the most >grief on the campaign trail ?
Tax cuts.
By Van on 08.17.07 7:04 pm
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Van, and do you not think that the average Canadian voter will see right through that B.S. move? How much good did it do Premier Jean Charet in Quebec during his quest for a majority when he promised all those tax cuts with our money handed to him by Harper? How much did it help Harper in the Polls in Quebec? I think Canadians are seeing and hearing only to well how much of a flip flopping, unaccountable Prime Minister Harper really is.
Dion IS the leader of the Liberal Party so I’d imagine getting “pissed” about things is best avoided; doing tantrums isn’t a sign of leadership. Kudoes to Dion for his class act.
Dion IS the leader of the Liberal Party so I’d imagine getting “pissed†about things is best avoided; doing tantrums isn’t a sign of leadership. Kudoes to Dion for his class act.
By John L on 08.18.07 11:10 am
You should check the picture when Harper and Dion met in Caraquet NB. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/08/15/4420800-cp.html A picture is sure worth a thousand words. Dion looks like a deer caught in the headlights.
You’re so partisan it’s apparently blinded you. — Garth
You’re so partisan it’s apparently blinded you. — Garth
By THE SHADOW KNOWS on 08.18.07 5:16 pm
Of course there isn’t anyone else that is partisan towards the liberals on this site. I never hear you saying this to those that stroke you all the time Garth.
Sean Hogan – you’ve cherry picked about Dion and the movie Sicko – he said very clearly that Moore’s portrayal of Canada’s health care was exaggerated, especially with respect to wait times. The dumb kyoto thing – c’mon what a piece of garbage. I was just wondering who they got to design it because visionally is terrible. By the way, the Dion is not a Leader thing is now quite boring, over done. They need new material. Oh, and the “New†government thing – enough already. We’ve had a formal government in Canada since 1867 head by one party or another – government is not new to Canada.
Dion is in discussions, meetings about health care with the “real†people that have to work in it – then he’ll have a position. That’s the way to do it.
Calgary Junkie – interesting comment about highlighting the dream team. Harper doesn’t outline his team because it’s all about him. Good point to bring out, thank you.
The CPC website is crappy, like it or not. Just look at it. Looks like a cheap sales flyer from a second hand store. That’s the way it is.
By slg on 08.17.07 5:00 pm
Actually, I didn’t cherry pick at all. The posting never states that Moore’s film was exaggerated. Take a look at the link where I got the posting from:
http://www.liberal.ca/story_13061_e.aspx
I’m still wondering why Dion doesn’t address the private clinic issue in Quebec. Why isn’t he criticizing them for having private clinics if he is such a supporter of publicly-funded healthcare, or maybe that’s just empty rhetoric?
Yes, I couldn’t stand the New Government brand. I didn’t like that from the beginning, its propaganda, in my mind.
I looked at the Conservative website again and I don’t see it as you do, except it looks cramped to me. The Liberal site is better organized in that way but boring to look at.
What happened to the speech in Cobourg this week. The boys there want to know why you will not support the Conservative Criminal Law amendments.
No idea what you’re talking about. I’m speaking in Port Hope Wednesday evening. — Garth