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		<title>By: Ed the Hun</title>
		<link>http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2007/09/24/liberal-strategy-revealed/comment-page-4/#comment-99399</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed the Hun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;QUEBEC CONTINGENCY ACT (REFERENDUM CONDITIONS)
Mr. Stephen Harper (Calgary West, Ref.) moved for leave to introduce Bill C-341, an act to establish the terms and conditions that must apply to a referendum relating to the separation of Quebec from Canada before it may be recognized as a proper expression of the will of the people of Quebec. 
He said: Mr. Speaker, this bill outlines a process for dealing with any future referendum on the issue of Quebec sovereignty. There are three main features of this bill. First, it allows the Government of Canada to determine whether a referendum question in Quebec is clear and unambiguous. If it is not, the Government of Canada is required to undertake a number of actions, including the holding of a parallel referendum in Quebec which asks a clear question on separation from Canada. 

Second, in the event of a yes vote, the bill authorizes the negotiation of separation subject to consultation with the provinces. Any final settlement would be subject to approval in a national referendum. 

Finally, the bill affirms that a unilateral declaration of independence is ineffective with respect to Canadian law and does not affect the functioning of the Canadian Parliament, government or courts with respect to Quebec. 

These proposals avoid the mistakes of the past, ensure a respect for our legal order and ensure that all Canadians, including Quebecers, have a role in shaping their future. 

(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed.)&quot;

Emilie,

That is harper&#039;s private member&#039;s bill 30 Oct 1996.  How can you say he had no interest?  Of course it didn&#039;t past the 1st reading.

Who had the majority in 1996?  It wasn&#039;t the liberals was it?  Of course the private member&#039;s bill went the way of the dinosaur... the majority government wouldn&#039;t allow it to see the light of day.

The Clarity Act passed was dion&#039;s under the liberal majority government in 2000.  However, it in so many ways is a copy of harper&#039;s 1996 Quebec Contingency Act, bill c-341.

Ed the Hun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;QUEBEC CONTINGENCY ACT (REFERENDUM CONDITIONS)<br />
Mr. Stephen Harper (Calgary West, Ref.) moved for leave to introduce Bill C-341, an act to establish the terms and conditions that must apply to a referendum relating to the separation of Quebec from Canada before it may be recognized as a proper expression of the will of the people of Quebec.<br />
He said: Mr. Speaker, this bill outlines a process for dealing with any future referendum on the issue of Quebec sovereignty. There are three main features of this bill. First, it allows the Government of Canada to determine whether a referendum question in Quebec is clear and unambiguous. If it is not, the Government of Canada is required to undertake a number of actions, including the holding of a parallel referendum in Quebec which asks a clear question on separation from Canada. </p>
<p>Second, in the event of a yes vote, the bill authorizes the negotiation of separation subject to consultation with the provinces. Any final settlement would be subject to approval in a national referendum. </p>
<p>Finally, the bill affirms that a unilateral declaration of independence is ineffective with respect to Canadian law and does not affect the functioning of the Canadian Parliament, government or courts with respect to Quebec. </p>
<p>These proposals avoid the mistakes of the past, ensure a respect for our legal order and ensure that all Canadians, including Quebecers, have a role in shaping their future. </p>
<p>(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed.)&#8221;</p>
<p>Emilie,</p>
<p>That is harper&#8217;s private member&#8217;s bill 30 Oct 1996.  How can you say he had no interest?  Of course it didn&#8217;t past the 1st reading.</p>
<p>Who had the majority in 1996?  It wasn&#8217;t the liberals was it?  Of course the private member&#8217;s bill went the way of the dinosaur&#8230; the majority government wouldn&#8217;t allow it to see the light of day.</p>
<p>The Clarity Act passed was dion&#8217;s under the liberal majority government in 2000.  However, it in so many ways is a copy of harper&#8217;s 1996 Quebec Contingency Act, bill c-341.</p>
<p>Ed the Hun</p>
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		<title>By: Sean P. Hogan</title>
		<link>http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2007/09/24/liberal-strategy-revealed/comment-page-4/#comment-99035</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean P. Hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sean P Hogan,

Not learn about Mohammed or Budda? What are you afraid of?

By Georgine on 09.26.07 3:46 pm&lt;/i&gt;

The basis of your question is false.  Why do you limit your thought processes to fear when one objects to something that you don&#039;t?  Its like that ridiculous word, homophobia.  It isn&#039;t a phobia at all, its an objection.  2 totally different things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sean P Hogan,</p>
<p>Not learn about Mohammed or Budda? What are you afraid of?</p>
<p>By Georgine on 09.26.07 3:46 pm</i></p>
<p>The basis of your question is false.  Why do you limit your thought processes to fear when one objects to something that you don&#8217;t?  Its like that ridiculous word, homophobia.  It isn&#8217;t a phobia at all, its an objection.  2 totally different things.</p>
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		<title>By: Emilie</title>
		<link>http://www.garth.ca/weblog/2007/09/24/liberal-strategy-revealed/comment-page-4/#comment-98989</link>
		<dc:creator>Emilie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You can try to frame this issue anyway you want, but at the end of the day, the Reform party brought this issue to the forefront. The liberals followed.

Ed the Hun&lt;/i&gt;

As you say.... you can frame this issue anyway you want but the time line shows clearly that there was no interest from Harper or Manning to frame the referenda/unity question until Jean Chretien brought Dion on the scene.

Just as today Stevie and Flim Flam are preening about their great surplus whereas when Paul Martin use to do the same it was because he was incompetent.

Ya can&#039;t have it both ways.

I agree Geo... Dion 10 and Manning/Harper 1.5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You can try to frame this issue anyway you want, but at the end of the day, the Reform party brought this issue to the forefront. The liberals followed.</p>
<p>Ed the Hun</i></p>
<p>As you say&#8230;. you can frame this issue anyway you want but the time line shows clearly that there was no interest from Harper or Manning to frame the referenda/unity question until Jean Chretien brought Dion on the scene.</p>
<p>Just as today Stevie and Flim Flam are preening about their great surplus whereas when Paul Martin use to do the same it was because he was incompetent.</p>
<p>Ya can&#8217;t have it both ways.</p>
<p>I agree Geo&#8230; Dion 10 and Manning/Harper 1.5</p>
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