Updated, 8 am EST
Well, you can count on one thing a few hours form now. A media circus. Cameras, microphones, photogs, reporters, live newsfeeds and sat trucks in the Parliamentary parking lot.
Karlheinz Schreiber will be appearing before the Commons ethics committee in Room 253-D. After spending the night in an Ottawa jail, he will be deposited at the Peace Tower by police, then escorted inside by Commons security staff. Prior to that, I was told last night, he would be given time in his Ottawa home to go through personal documents allowing him to refresh his memory – although by Thursday morning that was in considerable doubt. This could easily mean, he ain’t talking. At least that’s what his lawyer was instructing him to do on Wednesday evening.
I asked the guy running the meeting this morning what he would do if KS refused to talk. After all, unlike in court, a witness does not have the right to remain silent before Parliament. The answer: We just don’t know. And that’s part of the fun of this – it’s being made up, as we go along.
The rumour which swept through the House during a series of votes last night was that he might clam up in any case, until he wins a government concession to stay his extradition order indefinitely. So, the pissing match with justice minister Rob Nicholson and PMSH might continue for a while yet, as it becomes clearer by the moment that Mr. Harper had no intention of this Mulroney-Schreiber public inquiry of ever taking place.
Meanwhile QP today could be thunderous, for any Schreiber allegations hanging heavy in the corridors of the Centre Block, as well as new information that former Mulroney cabmin Elmer MacKay – father of the current Harper defense minister – is suddenly in the thick of the story. As I said yesterday, if a few of the inside allegations I have seen turn out to have legs, this PM is toast.
What happens this morning? Will Schreiber end up on a Lufthansa flight, whatever transpires? How can any of this look good on the Harper administration?
MPtv pulled on its leather shorts, grabbed a bratwurst and jumped into the fray to bring you some behind-the-scenes stuff. After QP, we caught up with ethics committee chair Paul Szabo, the man who will be in charge of Thursday’s circus, as well as the former justice minister and legal expert who actually ordered Schreiber out of the country three years ago, Irwin Cotler. He tells me the current justice minister is blowing smoke.
To view the vids, click here.
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And here we go! Yeehaw! The lawyers are filing; the witness is travelling; the MP’s are Peeing…What more could we ask for? Results?
Stephen Harper’s latest contempt of Parliament
Justice Minister Rob Nicholson isn’t the first Harper conservative to show his contempt for Parliament, even though, he is the first to be legally liable for contemptuous acts of Parliament if he does not see to it that the Speakers Warrant to have Karlheinz Schreiber appear before the House Ethics committee is honored.
Other examples of the Stephen Harper Conservative’s contempt for parliament include:
(1) the 200 page manual of how to obstruct parliamentary Committee
(2) Stephen Harper’s crass seat redistribution that will short change Ontario voters in favour of western voters and Quebec
(3) The contemptuous unwillingness of the Harper government, seconded by the NDP, to follow the following recommendations of the House Finance Committee:
RECOMMENDATION 1
It is imperative that a democratic government be as transparent as possible when levying a new tax so that it can be held to account by its citizens. The Committee, therefore, recommends that the federal government release the data and methodology it used to estimate the amount of federal tax revenue loss caused by the income trust sector.
RECOMMENDATION 2
The proposal to tax income trusts is of such significance and has had such a devastating effect on Canadian investors that Members of Parliament deserve a clear vote to best represent the interests of their constituents. The federal government should, therefore, separate it from the other sections of the Ways and Means Motion and table it in a stand-alone piece of legislation. The pension income splitting, the 0.5% reduction in the corporate tax rate in 2011 and the increase in the age credit amount should proceed as quickly as possible in their own
separate piece of legislation.
“…it becomes clearer by the moment that Mr. Harper had no intention of this Mulroney-Schreiber public inquiry of ever taking place.”
posted by Garth Turner on 11.28.07 @ 7:13 pm
So Mr. Harper didn’t throw his good buddy and mentor Mr. Mulroney under the bus after all, eh Garth. Had a plan to protect him all along.
Your story changes daily. Makes for good bathroom reading though.
Mr. Harper is out to protect himself. And Mr. Mulroney has “Goodyear” written on his rump. — Garth
Great. Just what Ottawa needs.
More circuses!
Meanwhile, even the editor of the Embassy reads the writing on the wall.
“This is a looming, serious problem that will have a major impact on food supplies, transportation, heating and virtually every economic activity.
A toast to toast. LOL a simple piece of bread results in a two hundred hit count on my blog. Hmmmmm tomorrow maybe it will be the circus side show. LOL
Those poor harper bots are just besides themsleves today Garth. Spining like mad and getting nowhere.
In fact, the rumour sweeping through the House during a series of votes was that he might clam up in any case, until he wins a government concession to stay his extradition order indefinitely. ~ Garth
Told ya so. Canada is the victim of the Heinz-lick manoeuvre. This whole thing is going to turn into a colossal waste of time, energy and money. L
FYI…Brian says Karl is a big fat liar.
Mulroney Says Schreiber Lied, Seeks Dismissal of Ontario Suit
By Joe Schneider
Nov. 28 (Bloomberg) — Former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney said arms broker Karlheinz Schreiber lied in a lawsuit when he said he agreed to pay Mulroney C$300,000 ($304,000) to help promote a business while Mulroney was still in office.
Mulroney asked an Ontario judge to throw out the suit because the case has no connection to the province and the court lacks jurisdiction. Mulroney is a senior partner at Ogilvy Renault in Montreal.
Schreiber’s “allegation in his statement of claim that the contract was made in Ontario is patently false,” Mulroney’s lawyer Kenneth Prehogan said yesterday in a court filing. “Schreiber offers no evidence as to where the contract was breached or where the alleged damages were suffered.”
Schreiber, who has been fighting extradition from Canada to Germany for eight years, sued the former prime minister to recoup money he said he paid Mulroney for help in setting up an arms factory in Nova Scotia. Schreiber’s complaint said Mulroney, who was prime minister from 1984 to June 1993, didn’t follow through on his promises to help.
The case is Between Karlheinz Schreiber and Brian Mulroney, 07-cv-329949PD3, Ontario Superior Court of Justice (Toronto).
Duffy got it right last night – Schreiber is the organ grinder and the Canadian Gov’t. (all of you on both sides) are the monkey. A commons committee is no place to get at the truth. Just a bunch of politicians posturing.
Same old, same old.
Garth,
Schreiber has been on the lam in Canada for almost eight years, ever since he was a houseguest of his bail sponsor, Elmer MacKay. To be fair, I’ve heard that Lalonde put up bail too. How come so long?
By Brent Fullard on 11.28.07 7:32 pm
Brent, the CPC voting against the two recommendations is not contempt of Parliament. It is contempt for the people of Canada.
You can understand why the NDP would vote against these recommendations, but the CPC after Harper’s promise. Its just plain, simple contempt.
Toast…similiar to the kipper…brown on the outside, two faced and no guts.
Garth,
Here’s a snip of a story from the Guardian in the UK.
From http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,191958,00.html
——————————————
“In 1995, with the RCMP digging into the circumstances surrounding the deal, a government lawyer wrote to the Swiss authorities asking them for help. The letter alleged that Mr Schreiber had used a Zurich bank account to pay the former prime minister, Brian Mulroney, a C$5m (£2.1m) kickback.
“Mr Mulroney sued and two years later won an apology and a settlement of C$2m. The government also apologized to Mr Schreiber, but did not offer him any compensation.
“When the RCMP arrested Mr Schreiber in August, it was for a different, though related, reason. The security force was acting on an arrest warrant issued by prosecutors in Bavaria, who accused Mr Schreiber of failing to pay tax of DM25m (£8m) on commission it said he received from deals he brokered in the late 80s and early 90s. One was for the sale of German armored vehicles to Saudi Arabia.
“Mr Schreiber’s disclosure that he handed more than DM1m in cash to the CDU in the same year was the match that lit the fuse under Germany’s Christian Democrats.
“Mr Schreiber has never been convicted of any offence. But there is a pattern of affinity with the political right.
“Mr Schreiber is the keeper of many explosive secrets. And, as he battles to avoid extradition from Canada to his native Germany, he has let some of those secrets filter out to devastating effect.
“What remains to be seen is how much more he can – and indeed wants to – reveal.
“Last November, he said: “I promise it will become very nasty.”
“So far, he has been as good as his word.
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What November might we be talking about? Would you believe 1999?
Schreiber has been on the lam in Canada for almost eight years, ever since he was a houseguest of his bail sponsor, Elmer MacKay. To be fair, I’ve heard that Lalonde put up bail too. How come so long?
By Blogsmacked on 11.28.07 8:34 pm
Answer: Lawyers!
Mr. Harper is out to protect himself. And Mr. Mulroney has “Goodyear†written on his rump. — Garth
And you sir are a gossip monger of the worst kind. Grow up Garth.
Garth,Why didn’t you mention that the Justice Minister has extended Schreiber stay in Canada to the Dec 15th,2007? You know for a former media hound, you sure are selective in your comments. Why don’t you tell the whole story instead of only parts of it that may make the Conservatives look bad? I am sure that wouldn’t be to difficult for an MP who claims to be so truthful at all times.
The extension is conditional upon Schreiber dropping appeals. His lawyer rejects it, as would be expected. — Garth
as it becomes clearer by the moment that Mr. Harper had no intention of this Mulroney-Schreiber public inquiry of ever taking place. By Garth.
Stop looking into your Crystal ball Garth because so far you are batting zero. You forcasted an election last spring and once again you forcasted an election this fall. You are losing credibility amongst those use their brain and intelligence instead of their heart and misplaced passion when reading your comments.
Just to be precise, I did not predict an election this fall. I merely salivated for one. — Garth
he extension is conditional upon Schreiber dropping appeals. His lawyer rejects it, as would be expected. — Garth
That is not what is being stated on TV. CTV news channel Cite your evidence to the contrary.
Better than TV. Trust me. — Garth
Mr. Harper is out to protect himself. And Mr. Mulroney has “Goodyear†written on his rump. — Garth
NOT By jim on 11.28.07 7:35 pm
Let me review the logos here Garth! Goodyear has the ‘Blimp’ and Goodrich has the Carp, or is that CRAP? Maybe they are one and the same spelled H-A-R-P-E-R?
Anyone call CSI for a tread mark analysis yet? LOL Maybe we should contact the CFS (Centre for Forensic Sciences) instead, eh?
This whole thing is going to turn into a colossal waste of time, energy and money. L
By Leasa on 11.28.07 7:58 pm
So, to you Leasa, truth and accountability are a ‘waste of time’? Do I understand your position correctly?
Did you have the same opinion about Gomery and AdScam Leasa? Enquiring minds want to know!
Schrieber will do anything and everything to stay in Canada so he won’t have to face the German courts and the Opposition are buying his clapp trap hook line and sinker.
It is my understanding that the Germans have agreed to send him back or make him available for any official inquiry. Hasn’t the opposition ever heard of video conferencing.
This SOB has been dicking us tax payers and the government for over 9 years. It is about time he was shipped out of here. He can be forced to appear at any official inquiry.
This ethics committee will be a joke and a circus to say the least where the Liberal members will try and tie Harper with Mulroney and this affair, The NDP will try and tie both the Liberals and the Conservatives to this affair and the Conservatives will try and tie the Liberals to this as well. Who the hell knows what the Bloc will try and do. I doubt they even know.
Better than TV. Trust me. — Garth
Remember Garth, my Liberal MP Garth Wilson resigned from the caucus because of his actions so I don’t trust any MP anymore including Conservative ones. I have no choice but request you show me the evidence that you have to make your claim. So far all it is is hearsay.
That would be “Blair Wilson.” Just to be accurate. — Garth
That is not what is being stated on TV. CTV news channel Cite your evidence to the contrary.
By Van on 11.28.07 9:18 pm
Ah, Faux News North! Now there is a source for ‘Fair & Balanced’. Yeah and a cesspool has potable water!
Bill the Ethics commiitee is going to be a circus and a joke as I indicated in a previous post. Very little truth will come out of it.
The only thing that may come out of it is that Schrieber will hood wink the politicians once again in another effort to stay in Canada instead of facing reality in Germany.
Just to be precise, I did not predict an election this fall. I merely salivated for one. — Garth
Oh is that the reason why you abstained on the throne speech and other votes as well?
You know sometimes you are so funny.
You have a large condiment up your posterior tonight, I gather. — Garth
This SOB has been dicking us tax payers and the government for over 9 years. It is about time he was shipped out of here. He can be forced to appear at any official inquiry.
By Van on 11.28.07 9:25 pm
BRILLIANT Van. Spot ON! Yes, here we have a Canadian CITIZEN, who has been pissed on by the Canadian Government, using OUR tax dollars playing their games far beyond any reasponable level of Due Process, and you want him ’shipped out’.
BRAVO Van, your comprehension of law and the Charter is impeccable.
Who the hell knows what the Bloc will try and do. I doubt they even know.
By Van on 11.28.07 9:25 pm
As to that part of your comment, your are Spot ON!
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTT! Breaking News
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071128.wschreiberletter1128/BNStory/National/home
WHAT DO A LEGG ED MEAN?
“Brine could getcha that, Iff’n you[z]…”
Graphic was right on the money, Zorpheous. The axiom applies:
The higher a person (Icarus/Harper, etc.) rises, the harder he falls!
Get xmas and new year’s hodge-podge over and done with, have an election in spring ‘08 and CRAP (the dead Borg) are burning in their own hell which they created for themselves.
Harry S. and the rest — they’re all one and the same — are correct in one aspect — Dion is not a leader; Dion will be a terrific leader for the whole country, and whether he is from Quebec or Nanavut doesn’t matter one whit.
BYE BYE, CRAPpers! It’s been fun, but the rest of us have to move ahead with life now, which includes a new centre-based political slate!
Garth: You are becoming one NASTY,BITTER man.The hate and anger just flows.
Actually, I am feeling quite jolly. — Garth
This circus is going to remind us once again why never to vote for the Liberals. The Liberals will believe anything anyone tells them so long as it is what they want to hear. Anyone that is going to believe what a Con Artist tells them is to be feared!
Bill the Ethics commiitee is going to be a circus and a joke as I indicated in a previous post. Very little truth will come out of it.
The only thing that may come out of it is that Schrieber will hood wink the politicians once again in another effort to stay in Canada instead of facing reality in Germany.
By Van on 11.28.07 9:35 pm
I agree with that, but hope that some of those involved will fall back on the their lawyer skills and do the job properly. As to Germany, well, look who is invoved their? Kohl, and other high ranking Conservatives.
Germany will get their chance, but like the old saying goes ‘Finders Keepers. Losers weepers!’ Something about ‘possession being 9/10’s of the law’ also comes to mind. We’s got him. We’s gets da first shot!
But then, as I said earlier, he is just the Bag Man. The politicians are the ones who TOOK the BRIBES.
Keep your eye on the Birdie Van! I am!
This rreaches far and deep. Infact, I suspect worldwide, and if we all really want honest government then every citizen who believes in real democracy, openness, accoutability, and truth, should be Standing TALL for the proceedings. I AM. I AM CANADIAN!
Bill, your sarcasim doesn’t become you.
No one should be able to evade extradition for over 8 years. This just shows you how weak our laws are and that leaks are so big that this guy is able to play his games with impunity. The man is wanted in Germany for not paying his taxes. Let him face their courts and let justice run its course. What is he afraid of. If he is so innocent then you tell me why he is so reluctant to return to Germany.
Any far as that goes which my friend has very little to do with law or the charter.
Btw, since you bought up the charter then you tell me which article is being violated in this case? It certainly isn’t Article 1 thru 11. I am most willing to debate merits of this case against the charter with you. I have my copy in front of me at this moment. Do you? Pitter patter lets get at her.
By PYOTR PETROBITCH on 11.28.07 9:41 pm
OOPS!
Well, Hello there Elmer. How goes things? Psst! Send your good suit to the dry cleaners, you will be needing it! Hope you son has one too?
You should sell that toast on eBay.
If Harper is Toast.
Dion is a crumb.
Anyone that is going to believe what a Con Artist tells them is to be feared!
By Ken M on 11.28.07 9:44 pm
Especially one with E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E! OOPS! Sorry to bring that up!
Give your head a shake. Do you honestly think this will be merely a verbal testimony with Eddie Greenspan as his Legal Counsel?
You have a large condiment up your posterior tonight, I gather. — Garth
Hey man it is only 7:08 pm here in BC. I would say as you are the one with the condiment as it is getting past your bedtime.
WHAT DO A LEGG ED MEAN?
“Brine could getcha that, Iff’n you[z]…â€
By PYOTR PETROBITCH on 11.28.07 9:41 pm
It’s not like the Globe to make a stupid mistake BUT if you look at the pdf file of the letter the Subject has Re in it.That means this letter was a REPLY to an earlier email sent by Shreiber. What did this email say? The G&M would make lousy detectives.
That would be “Blair Wilson.†Just to be accurate. — Garth
Oops Sorry Garth. I must have the word “Garth” on the brain tonight.
By Bill-Muskoka on 11.28.07 9:56
“Stock” … tryin’ to scare Bob Thibault in the House … That’s a laugh. “I unnerstan’ you[z] bin receivin’ letters.*
MP Thibault: Mulroney can’t silence me
During question period Thursday, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day said of Mr. Thibault:
“I think the member opposite should exercise some caution. I understand he may have received some letters already about certain things he has said and he should be careful.”
Mr. Thibault says Mr. Day shouldn’t say things like that.
“I found it awfully strange that Stockwell Day would make comments that could be taken as intimidating me out of asking difficult questions,” he said. “That’s the minister who’s responsible for the police, for the preservation of our rights in this country And I found that to be very strange and very irresponsible of a minister of the Crown.”
* Public Security Minister, my arse!
Ah, Faux News North! Now there is a source for ‘Fair & Balanced’. Yeah and a cesspool has potable water! By Bill
It is far better then Garth’s heresay comments.
Why is Van sh:tting bricks tonight. Christ, its like the poor boys pants are on fire.
Hey Van, if this going to blow up in the Liberals faces, why not sit back and enjoy the explosions,… or are your marching orders from the war room have you blind panic mode.
LOL, seems to me that if Harper has nothibg to fear he should just let the Liberals have their way and end up looking like fools. The political damage to the liberals would add several points to the CPC and push them way into the majority territory.
So relax Van, this is what you want, it is what you want and Harper too,… if that is, if Harper is clean.
The man is wanted in Germany for not paying his taxes
By Van on 11.28.07 9:55 pm
Would you happen to know whether or not a person named “Brine” paid late-filing charges to the revenoors on an A LEGG ED $300 thousand transaction?
Why is Van sh:tting bricks tonight
By Zorpheous on 11.28.07 10:09
I would suggest a condition related to the improper placement of a colon.[:]
The G&M would make lousy detectives.
By KPK on 11.28.07 10:02 pm
Ace of spades trump card to follow, no doubt.
Anyone that is going to believe what a Con Artist tells them is to be feared!
By Ken M on 11.28.07 9:44 pm
Especially one with E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E! OOPS! Sorry to bring that up!
Give your head a shake. Do you honestly think this will be merely a verbal testimony with Eddie Greenspan as his Legal Counsel?
By Bill-Muskoka on 11.28.07 9:59 pm
That would explain having to gather papers and things at his apartment.
It is very quiet in the con camp tonight . Whats wrong boys?
Even hj is pretty quiet.
If Harper is Toast.
Dion is a crumb.
By Haltonjohn on 11.28.07 9:58 pm
Mulroney’s former solicitor-general alleged to have played role in Schreiber apology letter
GREG MCARTHUR
Globe and Mail Update
November 28, 2007 at 9:50 PM EST
In recent interviews from a Toronto-area jail, Mr. Schreiber alleged that he was told that, if he provided the apology, Mr. Mulroney would get Mr. Harper to halt the impending extradition proceedings against him.
But when the Justice Department refused to stop the extradition, the 73-year-old German-Canadian said he came to the conclusion that he had been duped and that Mr. Mulroney only wanted the letter so he could “fix his own problems.â€
When asked how he knew that Mr. Mulroney was meeting Mr. Harper in August 2006, Mr. Schreiber replied: “Elmer MacKay told me this and that he needed badly this letter for this meeting, otherwise [Mr. Mulroney] would not help me.â€
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071128.wschreiberletter1128/BNStory/National/home
By PYOTR PETROBITCH on 11.28.07 10:05 pm
WHAT? You don’t feel secure with Doris at the helm? Pshaw mon ami! Why, it is like Petticoat Junction only real!
Reminds me of Air Force General Staff
and
This
By PYOTR PETROBITCH on 11.28.07 10:11 pm
Was that ‘Brine’ or ‘Britan’?
It is far better then Garth’s heresay comments.
By Van on 11.28.07 10:07 pm
Yes Van I will trust CTV, aka, Faux News North over a sitting MP who is actually there and part of the process.
Tomorrow, I promise I will go learn the truth at Blogging Tories as well. Just to know what ‘Fair and Balanced’ really means in a democracy.
Psst! BTW Van, it is ‘hearsay’ not ‘heresay’! You seem to confuse Garth with what you hear on CTV, which is ‘heresy.’ So many variants, so little time for a dictionary.
Van must be the “wheel” on duty tonight.
Tick! Tick! Tock! The docs ran up the clock. The lawyers billed, the client fainted, Tickery Tockery Tock!
And to all a Goodnight *HEY! Get those Reindeer off my roof Fat Man! And if you are looking for a ‘Ho’ you’re in the wrong town!’*
‘LOOK! There goes the White Rabbit! Right down that hole!’
Quick call the media; call the paparazzi!
Eh? You say it’s the Killer Rabbit? AWGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Oh, and before I go to that magical land of dreams..I have planned for a nice breakfast of poached eggs on TOAST! Good night!
Would you happen to know whether or not a person named “Brine†paid late-filing charges to the revenoors on an A LEGG ED $300 thousand transaction? By PYOTR PETROBITCH
Nope, Don’t know and don’t care. That is between him and Revenue Canada.
K. H. Schreider is playing you all for the fools that you are!
WHAT DO A LEGG ED MEAN?
“Brine could getcha that, Iff’n you[z]…â€
By PYOTR PETROBITCH on 11.28.07 9:41 pm
It’s not like the Globe to make a stupid mistake BUT if you look at the pdf file of the letter the Subject has Re in it.That means this letter was a REPLY to an earlier email sent by Shreiber. What did this email say? The G&M would make lousy detectives.
By KPK on 11.28.07 10:02 pm
?
To me, and I have used it as such many times, Re mean “Regarding”. Not “Reply”. Could mean both I guess, but never used it in the other manner.
Zorpheous. Unlike you I don’t see evil in everything that Harper does or doesn’t do. Afer this circus is all and done I strongly suggest that Harper’s hands will be clean. Hell he wasn’t even a Conservative when this money exchange happened.
There are far more important things to do then for our highly paid Mps to listen to a proven liar trying to evade going to Germany and continue to manipulate parliament both Liberal and Conservative and our government..
My biggest problem I have is this guy has been playing us Canadians, successive governments and our Mps from all sides for fools for over 8 years. He should be shipped out forthwith.This SOB was supposed to be extradited back to Germany 8 years ago and he still trying to remain here. That is the issue in my mind everything else is just a side show.
One good thing that this whole fiasco may prove, is how weak and gigantic loop holes are in our extradition laws really are which is very similar to our deportation laws.
Better than TV. Trust me. — Garth
Remember Garth, my Liberal MP Garth Wilson resigned from the caucus because of his actions so I don’t trust any MP anymore including Conservative ones. I have no choice but request you show me the evidence that you have to make your claim. So far all it is is hearsay.
That would be “Blair Wilson.†Just to be accurate. — Garth
By Van on 11.28.07 9:32 pm
If you don’t trust any MP, including Conservatives, then why do you constantly defend them and constantly attack the Libs. It is you Van who are the hypocrit.
Hmmmm…So many want to paint Schreiber as the villian in this matter. Let’s see who he has been dealing with? Mulroney, Harper, Kohl, the former Bavarian Prime Minister, and the list of POLITICIANS goes on and on. He is now an old man with many secrets, and nothing to lose in exposing the total corruption that the MSM love to overlook, as do the Conswervative parties around the world.
The Piper has his bag fully inflated, time for the chanter to start playing, and play it will.
Just in case anyone has missed the point, it was the POLITICIANS who played to Mr. Schreiber. It was the POLITICAL LEADERS who have partaken of his bribes. They are the GUILTY ONES that we must demand justice to bring them to account for their betrayal of we the PEOPLE’s TRUST!
Cheap WHORES that were for sale, and now they are going to get BUSTED! GOOD! EXCELLENT! May the fines and imprisonment fit the crimes regardless of political affiliation, but why so many CONSERVATIVES ON THE TAKE?
Remember, the REAL LIARS are the politicians who, while in OFFICE, took illegal bribes and kickbacks. Schreiber was merely the BAG MAN! A Bag Man with all the details, and evidence to PROVE who the real criminals are.
I wonder when Cheney and Bush will become part of this worldwide scheme of graft and corruption?
Is that TOAST I smell burning? Yes, indeed it is!
By Bill-Muskoka on 11.28.07 3:17 pm
We all know who the cheap whore is. Lets see what you are made of and name all these Conservatives that you say are on the take. Show your buddies that you have the real balls to do so. Bet you won’t. No guts, no glory. You Mr BLOWHARD, are made of nothing but hot air. Lets see who has the balls now, JUDGE, JURY and EXECUTIONER. Come on Sonny BOY, show all your buddies what you are made of. I know what you are made of, hot air and it ain’t smelling so good.. Give up those names and it won’t be toast you will be smelling shortly after you arrive in your prison cell. COME ON, COME ON, WE ALL WANT TO SEE THOSE NAMES NOW, YOU HEAR? I thought MARINES lived by Honor, Courage and Commitment??
Betty, your slip is showing. — Garth
By Betty White on 11.28.07 6:49 pm
From you previous post Garth.
I see you are attracting another rational CPAPer
I guess you Libbers didn’t know that should a Canadian public inquiry happen or even a Canadian police investigation take place, Germany would probably agree to have Karlheinz interviewed in Germany, as Germany and Canada are alies and have probably done this in the past (like the original Mulroney investigation).
I say throw the black mailing slime out and let his motherland deal with him. Or are some people scared that Karl will retaliate and squeal like a pig in Germany? I begining to suspect this.
Schreiber says Elmer MacKay urged him to mend fences with Mulroney
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/11/28/schreiber-mackay.html
Karlheinz Schreiber says former Conservative cabinet minister Elmer MacKay urged him to write a letter to Brian Mulroney to patch up their relationship so he could raise his extradition case with the prime minister, CBC News has learned.
Schreiber, who is set to testify before the federal ethics committee on Thursday about his affairs with Mulroney, claims MacKay told him that Mulroney was scheduled to meet with Prime Minister Stephen Harper in the summer of 2006.
Schreiber said MacKay told him that if he wanted Mulroney to raise the issue of his extradition with Harper, he needed to make amends with Mulroney.
Both Mulroney and Schreiber are long-time friends of MacKay, who is the father of current Defence Minister Peter MacKay.
Is this the SPECTRAL face of the Neo-Con GoB?
http://www.garth.ca/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/toast.jpg
“On behalf of the Attorney General of Canada, I am prepared to consent on strict terms to a judicial stay of the surrender order pending the outcome of your application for leave,” to the Supreme Court, said the letter from Nancy Denison, senior counsel for the Justice Department.
The letter says Schreiber’s lawyer, Edward Greenspan, must file “all the materials in support of your leave application on an expedited basis and by no later than Dec. 10, 2007.”
Nicholson had refused to bow to Opposition demands that he put off Schreiber’s extradition to Germany, where the arms broker is wanted on fraud, bribery and tax evasion charges.
http://www.680news.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n1128119A
Case Name: Schreiber v. Mulroney
Between Karlheinz Schreiber, Plaintiff, and Brian Mulroney, Defendant
[2007] O.J. No. 3191 Court File No. 07-CV-329949PD3
Ontario Superior Court of Justice
J.C. Newbould J.
Heard: August 15, 2007.
Judgment: August 24, 2007. (45 paras.)
http://www3.quicklaw.com/cgi-bin/LNC-prod/lnetdocf.pl?DOCNO=390
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082&sid=a8izTHKJyI.8&refer=canada
http://search.bloomberg.com/search?q=MULRONEY&site=wnews&client=wnews&proxystylesheet=wnews&output=xml_no_dtd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&filter=p&getfields=wnnis&sort=date%3AD%3AS%3Ad1
CPC up to their collective arses
http://www.usgs.gov/125/articles/images/herp_alligator.jpg
http://jrscience.wcp.muohio.edu/costarica03digimages/SW_Costa_Rica/sierpebananas/images/IMG_3899.jpg
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/video/vs?id=RTGAM.20071128.wvgatorade1128&sid=
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/bnfiles/pdf/sharonmackay.pdf
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/bnfiles/pdf/schreiberapology.pdf
By PYOTR PETROBITCH on 11.28.07 9:41 pm
Quote from the Right Honorable Bart Simpson
I didn’t do it
You can’t prove it
That’s my story
I’m stickin’ to it
A new liberal hero is born.
This is like a huge liberal white collar “hug a thug” convention and Schreiber is the liberal star.
Most intelligent Canadians, think this whole thing is a waste of time and money.
Note that I said “intelligent” Canadians.
Could the rest be liberals.
I wonder,
if after this, will Dion’s ratings go up ??
Not likely.
13%
12% among friends.
Garth, this is the first time I’ve ever been on this blog and I must say you seem to be spending way too much time trying to be clever on message boards.
As an MP, don’t you have something better to do?
Speaking of clever comments, how’s this: Do they know at the Privy Council Office that you’re using a government computer to surf this blog, or did the PMO ask you to do it? By the way, have you seen a letter around there from a K. Schreiber? — Garth
He can be forced to appear at any official inquiry.
By Van on 11.28.07 9:25 pm
But he cannot be made to speak!
Did you have the same opinion about Gomery and AdScam Leasa? Enquiring minds want to know!
By Bill-Muskoka on 11.28.07 9:25 pm
Bill…honestly do you really believe there is a comparison here? There were a lot of good people who stuck their neck out and if it weren’t for Paul Martin’s ’section 5′ (I read the details of section 5, thanks to Steve Jenke) we would have seen many politicians hang. There is still $40 million missing. Adscam is not done, but I noticed that Mr. Harper was not vindictive enough to go after them without section 5. Do you honestly believe that Mr. Martin and the rest of the Cabinet in power at that time knew nothing?
Perhaps in another 10 years we will have a Krafty Karl come forward and tell us all about adscam.
BTW…did we ever actually finish investigating Earnscliff?
Leasa
To me, and I have used it as such many times, Re mean “Regardingâ€. Not “Replyâ€. Could mean both I guess, but never used it in the other manner.
By SJ on 11.28.07 11:15 pm
Any time I receive a reply to an email I sent it automatically sticks the Re on the Subject line. As far as I know every
email program does this by default.
Good morning Garth, You know, before the circus gets under way, you should warn your new friend ‘Rob’ to make sure when he’s carrying Krafty Karl’s very important papers on that silver tray, three steps behind him and as he polishes Karl’s shoes, not to get caught doing so on camera. Bad optics you know. I’m also wondering now that Liberal Hero Karl will be in town for Christmas, which one of you gets to have him over for turkey?
Just curious and trying to be ‘helpful’.
Leasa
As always. — Garth
I notice when the cons have nothing they start the personal attacks on Garth(by James),liberals ,and Dion(hj,etc).
Sure, Harpers only worry for himself is if Mulroney has proof about the summer meeting.Other than that he is safe.But Mackay ,Nicholson ,etc. are going to be in trouble.It is bad for the push for a majority.
The cons should be worried about how they have embarrassed most Canadians on the world stage (death penalty and global warming) and the fallout from that.
Actually Garth would probably know. I assume he has a blackberry and sends and receives emails. Does the blackberry append Re in the Subject Line on “replied to” emails?
Leadership means taking action
By JAMES TRAVERS
Wed. Nov 28 – 5:28 AM
IT’S NOT THE MOST exhilarating of available definitions but practising politicians understand that leadership is often about looking busy while doing as little as possible.
Former prime minister Jean Chretien made governing seem easy by letting time solve problems while Paul Martin made it impossibly hard by talking about them all at once.
Stephen Harper is more Chretien than Martin. Almost two years into a first mandate, the prime minister is advancing an agenda of many small parts while leaving bigger stuff for later.
Trimming the GST, slamming jailhouse doors, buying Arctic slush breakers and tinkering with the Senate are feel-good, do-little policies that make Conservatives comfortable with their government even if they won’t make Canada noticeably more competitive, safe, sovereign or cohesive.
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/994812.html
Why is Van sh:tting bricks tonight
By Zorpheous on 11.28.07 10:09
I would suggest a condition related to the improper placement of a colon.[:]
By PYOTR PETROBITCH on 11.28.07 10:20 pm
BAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA ROTFLMAO
Oh that one took a second to register, good one Pyotr ~smirk~
Garth,Why didn’t you mention that the Justice Minister has extended Schreiber stay in Canada to the Dec 15th,2007? You know for a former media hound, you sure are selective in your comments. Why don’t you tell the whole story instead of only parts of it that may make the Conservatives look bad? I am sure that wouldn’t be to difficult for an MP who claims to be so truthful at all times.
The extension is conditional upon Schreiber dropping appeals. His lawyer rejects it, as would be expected. — Garth
By Van on 11.28.07 9:12 pm
HEY. WAIT A F*CKING SECOND!!!
Didn’t the Justice Minister just finish saying a few days ago that HE DIDN’T HAVE THE POWER TO STAY OR MODIFY THE EXTRADITION ORDER?? And now, out of the blue he does?
So is our Justice Minister lying now or was he lying when he stated to the Ethic Committee that he didn’t have the power?
It can’t be both ways. What a pack of lying sh:t holes we have in Ottawa.
By Haltonjohn on 11.29.07 7:16 am
Well I know you consider me a Liberal, and maybe my way of thinking is as for the most part I disagree with just about everything you say.
However, to dispell you theory that those with a Liberal mindset are not intelligent, this thought struck me as I drove my daughter to school,
KHS should testify before the Commons committee. The MPs from all sides should question him, and more importantly, while trying to score political points as they will, should try to find out first hand whether KHS’s story has a modicum of truth or whether he’s just stringing them along to stay in Canada.
If his story has some truth, in the interests of accountability and transparancy, he gets to testify at the inquiry. Then gets transported to YYZ terminal 3.
If he’s stringing them along, cancel the inquiry, book the one-way Lufthansa ticket and transport KHS directly to YYZ, do not pass Go and certainly do not collect $200.
The Hon. Garth Turner:
I do sincerely hope the MSM will be permitted coverage of the testimony of Mr. Karlheinz Schreiber … and, that any ANTICS OF THE CPC COMMITTEE MEMBERS, will be recorded for posterity.
I do have faith in the capabilities of Mr. Szabo … But, nonetheless, am suspicious of the CPC participants. I don’t doubt, now that Pat Martin has achieved one of his objectives, he will be steadfast in his support of the chairman.
CBC, CPAC, CTV [including the thermometer lady]* as well as the print media, should be prepared to give Canadians full coverage.
*Just hold still for a sec., I want to see if you’re hot or not!
Most intelligent Canadians, think this whole thing is a waste of time and money.
Note that I said “intelligent†Canadians.
By Haltonjohn on 11.29.07 7:16 am
This from the wah wah baby want a bottle guy.
The bell is ringing for “Special School”. Take you seat.
Leasa – this has to potential to make sponsorship look like soup.
I have a problem with the sanctimonious NDP actually – they’re out to get everyone so that Layton can get his affordable housing in Ottawa – he likes that you know – has a history of it. When he and wife Olivia were on Toronto Council earning more that $120,000 they were caught by the media – living in subsidized housing. The NDP have had many provincial scandals too – spudscam, O’Learygate, bingogate to name a few – on top of some scandals out west. That is why their sanctimony drives me crazy.
TV is bad at best and now that there’s the writers’ strike – something to watch. This thing would make a really good book.
I’m still curious – who are the people that donated to Harper that he’s hidden? Why does he get away with hiding it?
Now what? Huh?
OTTAWA — The Canadian death-row prisoner the Conservatives have abandoned to his fate in the United States because he’s a “multiple or mass-murderer” may not have actually killed two men, federal government records show.
Ronald Allen Smith is facing death by lethal injection in Montana for the 1982 cold-blooded murders of two Blackfeet men, but he had a Canadian accomplice who was extradited to Canada long ago and is now a free man.
National Parole Board records show that his friend Rodney Munro played a key role in the murders.
“You and an accomplice killed two young men in the State of Montana,” says one parole decision. “The weapons used were knives and a gun. Without provocation, you killed the men and then drove off with their car.”
Because Smith pleaded guilty to the two murders, while Munro entered a plea bargain that saw him later transferred to Canada, the details of who technically killed the men were never explored in a courtroom. Munro’s name has disappeared from references to the crime in the media.
Justice Minister Rob Nicholson, meanwhile, has said Canada will no longer seek clemency specifically for Canadian “multiple or mass-murderers” who are facing the death penalty in democratic countries, and would look at each on a “case-by-case basis.”
Watching CBC this morning shows that the media circus is already in full swing.
By keith phibbs on 11.28.07 10:29 pm
Richardo –
Your post was rather unusual again. You re-posted my comment but you did not respond to it. Did you just think it was worth repeating or did you forget to take your meds again ??
It’ll be interesting to see what story KH pulls out of his butt this time.
I don’t think it’ll be a good one, he’s compaining that he hasn’t had enough time to prepare one.
Leasa,
your 7:50, MEOOOOW!
Afer this circus is all and done I strongly suggest that Harper’s hands will be clean. Hell he wasn’t even a Conservative when this money exchange happened.
Indeed. The issue will have nothing to do with the time the money exchange happened. It will have everything to do with the actions of Harper and those around him, when they found out what was going on. Those looking to make hay from this are hoping that actions were undertaken to try and keep it all out of ‘public’ view.
It will be: What did you know? When did you know? What did you do about it?
If there is any fire associated with this smoke it would be: Did the Conservatives do anything to try to keep the lid on this ’scandal’? There only motive to do so would be the belief that any controversy would have a negative impact on achieving a majority.
So much mud being thrown. Will any of it stick?
prepare? I think he meant select.
I was just listening to a radio station and they were laughing at the Schreiber thing and how nobody seems to care less.
The comment was – “anyone with a brain knows this has nothing to do with Harper, so who cares”.
Read between the lines Libranos.
OH THE PLOT THICKENS
GREG MCARTHUR
Globe and Mail Update
November 29, 2007 at 7:00 AM EST
TORONTO — Brian Mulroney’s former solicitor-general appears to have played a role in drafting a letter from Karlheinz Schreiber that has been cited by Mr. Mulroney as evidence that there was nothing improper about the cash payments he received in 1993 and 1994.
Over the past year, Mr. Mulroney and his spokesman Luc Lavoie have contacted journalists and quoted from a 2006 letter of apology written by Mr. Schreiber, in which he states that the former prime minister was the “best advocate I could have retained.â€
However, a copy of an e-mail obtained by The Globe and Mail and CBC’s fifth estate raises questions about the origins of the letter and whether Elmer MacKay, a Mulroney-era cabinet minister, had a hand in writing it.
The e-mail, which was written about one month before Mr. Schreiber sent his letter of apology to Mr. Mulroney, shows that a draft version of the apology was sent from the e-mail address sharonmackay923@hotmail.com to Mr. Schreiber’s wife, Barbel Schreiber.
Brian Mulroney, Elmer Mackay, centre, and Karlheinz Schreiber are seen in this undated photo while Mulroney was PM. The photo has a personalized inscription from Mulroney to Schreiber on the bottom.
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Brian Mulroney, Elmer Mackay, centre, and Karlheinz Schreiber are seen in this undated photo while Mulroney was PM. The photo has a personalized inscription from Mulroney to Schreiber on the bottom. (HO)
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Sharon MacKay is the wife of Mr. MacKay, a long time supporter of Mr. Mulroney. Mr. MacKay is one of the few Conservatives who has maintained ties with Mr. Schreiber during his ongoing feud with the former prime minister and has acted as a surety several times for Mr. Schreiber’s bail applications.
The e-mail, which has the subject line “Re Proposed Letter,†contains similar and identical passages to the letter that Mr. Mulroney and Mr. Lavoie have cited over the last few months, including the statement referring to Mr. Mulroney as “the best advocate.â€
When contacted about the e-mail and asked to explain it, Mr. MacKay first denied having “any knowledge of anything about it,†but later clarified, saying he merely didn’t want to discuss it.
“I’m not saying whether I did or whether I didn’t,†Mr. MacKay said when asked if he had any involvement in the writing of the letter.
“I have no comment to make about Brian Mulroney or Karlheinz Schreiber or any letter. I’m not going to say anything about it – whether I talked to either of them, or both of them,†Mr. MacKay said.
His wife, Sharon, didn’t respond to a message left with Mr. MacKay.
Mr. Mulroney’s spokesman, Mr. Lavoie, said the letter of apology arrived with no advance warning and as a complete surprise to the former prime minister.
“Mulroney never spoke about this indirectly to anybody. The letter was sent, he received it,†Mr. Lavoie said.
In an affidavit that was sworn by Mr. Schreiber a few weeks ago, he stated that Mr. Mulroney requested the letter of apology so the former prime minister could show Prime Minister Stephen Harper that he was “on good terms†with Mr. Schreiber.
Since the release of that affidavit, which sparked the current review of Mr. Mulroney’s relationship with Mr. Schreiber, Mr. Harper has stated publicly that he and Mr. Mulroney have never discussed Mr. Schreiber “nor did Mr. Mulroney present a letter from Mr. Schreiber.â€
In recent interviews from a Toronto-area jail, Mr. Schreiber alleged that he was told that, if he provided the apology, Mr. Mulroney would get Mr. Harper to halt the impending extradition proceedings against him.
But when the Justice Department refused to stop the extradition, the 73-year-old German-Canadian said he came to the conclusion that he had been duped and that Mr. Mulroney only wanted the letter so he could “fix his own problems.â€
When asked how he knew that Mr. Mulroney was meeting Mr. Harper in August 2006, Mr. Schreiber replied: “Elmer MacKay told me this and that he needed badly this letter for this meeting, otherwise [Mr. Mulroney] would not help me.â€
Mr. Schreiber has alleged in his sworn affidavit, which has not been proven in court, that other associates of Mr. Mulroney attempted to obtain statements from him concerning the cash payments.
According to the affidavit, Mr. Mulroney’s friend and former aide Fred Doucet also tried to get Mr. Schreiber to sign a contract in 2000 that would explain the payments that took place seven years earlier. Mr. Doucet has refused to comment on the allegation.
The language in the e-mail from sharonmackay923@hotmail.com also suggests that someone other than Mr. Schreiber was involved in writing it.
The businessman, who spent most of his life in Germany before becoming a Canadian citizen in 1982, often speaks and writes in rambling, grammatically incorrect sentences.
William Kaplan, the author of two books on Mr. Mulroney and Mr. Schreiber and who has interviewed Mr. Schreiber numerous times, described the e-mail as “uncharacteristically†clear.
“In my experience in interviewing Karlheinz, it was often difficult to understand exactly what he was saying at any particular moment. This letter, on the other hand, is completely articulate and clear,†Mr. Kaplan said.
Quick…somebody hire SES to do a poll asking Canadians:
Did you receive a letter from Karl Schreiber?
Prediction:
Yes: 64%
No: 16%
Don’t know: 20%
Leasa ~ A scandal a day keeps the boredom away!
Before we get all serious and snarky about what may or may not happen at the Ethics Committee this morning, we need a moment to psych ourselves up.
Bob Robertson’s weekly column in the Ottawa Citizen to-day is outstanding, but it is not available in the internet edition yet (except in the digital version). Among other juicy items, Robertson reveals the reason why Schreiber gave 300K to Mulroney:
“It was to buy a statue of himself on Parliament Hill. I’m informed they actually made a statue of the long-suffering Mr. Mulroney and tested it out, but when the pigeons refused to sit on it, it was put on hold.”
The CRAP better buy a large tube of PreparationHarp.
Because it is going to get uncomfortably itchy.
Did you have the same opinion about Gomery and AdScam Leasa? Enquiring minds want to know!
By Bill-Muskoka on 11.28.07 9:25 pm
Bill…honestly do you really believe there is a comparison here? There were a lot of good people who stuck their neck out and if it weren’t for Paul Martin’s ’section 5′ (I read the details of section 5, thanks to Steve Jenke) we would have seen many politicians hang. There is still $40 million missing. Adscam is not done, but I noticed that Mr. Harper was not vindictive enough to go after them without section 5. Do you honestly believe that Mr. Martin and the rest of the Cabinet in power at that time knew nothing?
Perhaps in another 10 years we will have a Krafty Karl come forward and tell us all about adscam.
BTW…did we ever actually finish investigating Earnscliff?
Leasa
By Leasa on 11.29.07 7:39 am
Leasa,
I will ask you again, what is there that you don’t understand about the word, “exonerated”? Note that within the last week this word has appeared in the press again.
And you were complaining about witch hunts. What a hypocrite you are!
Your latest diatribe is based only on speculation and wishful thinking, driven by hatred and fuelled by hyperpartisan ship. So much for your repeated protests that you are a nice person who doesn’t hate anyone!
And you had the audacity to state,”I have been the most non-partisan on this board?” What a joke!
“…as it becomes clearer by the moment that Mr. Harper had no intention of this Mulroney-Schreiber public inquiry of ever taking place.”
posted by Garth Turner on 11.28.07 @ 7:13 pm
“Mr. Harper is out to protect himself. And Mr. Mulroney has “Goodyear†written on his rump. — Garth”
On one hand Garth you say Harper would sell his mother if it would be advantageous for him. On the other you say Harper is prepared to risk his political career to protect a former adversary.
Which one is it Garth? Can hardly wait for more contradictions tomorrow. We are all on pins and needles in anticipation.
You have missed your calling, Garth. You should write for the Enquirer.
Learn to read, bro. Mr. Mulroney has already been thrown under the bus and Mr. Harper could care less. It’s a character thing. — Garth
Leasa ~ A scandal a day keeps the boredom away!
By Leasa on 11.29.07 8:38 am
Well Leaeepoo, as long as there are politicians in the world, we can be assured of scandals and treachery.
Et tu Brute?
By Zorpheous on 11.29.07 8:08 am
Excellent point, goes right the heart of trust, or lack thereof, with PMSH and his New,flip-flopping, wanting their cake and eat it, not a clue Government.
But may I suggest decaf!
The CRAP better buy a large tube of PreparationHarp.
Because it is going to get uncomfortably itchy.
By Captain George on 11.29.07 8:44 am
I have a feeling they may share that tube with the Libs.
Mr. Mulroney has already been thrown under the bus and Mr. Harper could care less. It’s a character thing. — Garth`
Turner,
You are such an ass.
Your quote is 100% slander.
Typical neo-Con troll reaction, Milton Moron. When you can’t handle facts, try invective.
I’m still curious – who are the people that donated to Harper that he’s hidden? Why does he get away with hiding it?
By slg on 11.29.07 8:23 am
“…as it becomes clearer by the moment that Mr. Harper had no intention of this Mulroney-Schreiber public inquiry of ever taking place.â€
slg, could it be from lyin Brain via Karl Schreiber? Now, wouldn’t that be interesting? That could answer both questions posed me thinks.
cheers
Bill…honestly do you really believe there is a comparison here?
By Leasa on 11.29.07 7:39 am
Gee Leasa. I only know one way to spell the word ‘corruption’, same with ‘bribe’. Neither has a political label attached to it in any source I have read. How about you? Do you have some unique reference only you are privy to that defines one as apple and the other as orange, or something like that?
By keith phibbs on 11.28.07 10:29 pm
Richardo –
Your post was rather unusual again. You re-posted my comment but you did not respond to it. Did you just think it was worth repeating or did you forget to take your meds again ??
By Haltonjohn on 11.29.07 8:27 am
I was pointing out the fact that you and your buddies use more personal attacks when you are backed into a corner and cannot respond intelligently.
Thanks for proving my point.
ore personal attacks from a coward.
And you had the audacity to state,â€I have been the most non-partisan on this board?†What a joke!
By Gord on 11.29.07 8:49 am
Hey friend Gordie, Do you actually read this board? Yup, I’d say I am the nicest, sweetest non-partisan to post here.
Of course the Politicos were exonerated…thanks to section ‘5′ and the fact that section 5 stopped Mr. Gomery from looking at politician’s bank statements, phone statements, personal emails, agenda books, appointment books etc., etc, etc. No evidence…you must exonerated. Kind of like, ‘if the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit…even if the fingers are spread way far apart.
Anyway, Gordie, wish I could stay and chat more….but gotta run.
Have a really wonderful day. ~your bestest buddy, Leasa.
Speaking of clever comments, how’s this: Do they know at the Privy Council Office that you’re using a government computer to surf this blog, or did the PMO ask you to do it? By the way, have you seen a letter around there from a K. Schreiber? — Garth
By James on 11.29.07 7:16 am
BUSTED! One down, a few more to go. Do James, Jim (same person?), HJ, HJ2, and our rodeo ladies from the far west think it’s acceptable those trolls are wasting a tax-payer-funded internet connection (on tax-payer-funded employee time) on this? I think this is more important than KHS!
KPK Re: the “Re”…
It’s common practice to type Re: in the subject line of an original email, as in “Re: Christmas Party” etc. I often receive business and personal emails composed that way. Just because Re is in the subject line, doesn’t mean it was a reply to a previous email. I’m sure there’s a way to find out if it was, but the just presence of “Re” doesn’t make it so.
Many people never change the Subject line in emails as well.
Hey friend Gordie, Do you actually read this board? Yup, I’d say I am the nicest, sweetest non-partisan to post here.
Of course the Politicos were exonerated…thanks to section ‘5′ and the fact that section 5 stopped Mr. Gomery from looking at politician’s bank statements, phone statements, personal emails, agenda books, appointment books etc., etc, etc. No evidence…you must exonerated. Kind of like, ‘if the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit…even if the fingers are spread way far apart.
Anyway, Gordie, wish I could stay and chat more….but gotta run.
Have a really wonderful day. ~your bestest buddy, Leasa.
By Leasa on 11.29.07 10:42 am
If you really believe that Leasa, you are more out to lunch that I thought. I’d suggest it is you who should reread your comments on this blog.
Anyway, Gordie, wish I could stay and chat more….but gotta run.
Have a really wonderful day. ~your bestest buddy, Leasa.
By Leasa on 11.29.07 10:42 am
Meant to add your scarcasm on so many of your posts comes over loud & clear.
As an MP, don’t you have something better to do?
Speaking of clever comments, how’s this: Do they know at the Privy Council Office that you’re using a government computer to surf this blog, or did the PMO ask you to do it? By the way, have you seen a letter around there from a K. Schreiber? — Garth
By James on 11.29.07 7:16 am
And that towel snap to nads was just so delightful. LOL. Not to worry Garth, I get PCO, HoC, and Conservative.ca blowing throw my blog any day I post a new pic. Yesterday was a classic.
Other notworthies
CBC,
CTV,
HoC
Toronto Star
and all for a piece of toast, LOL!
To me, and I have used it as such many times, Re mean “Regardingâ€. Not “Replyâ€. Could mean both I guess, but never used it in the other manner.
By SJ on 11.28.07 11:15 pm
Any time I receive a reply to an email I sent it automatically sticks the Re on the Subject line. As far as I know every
email program does this by default.
By KPK on 11.29.07 7:46 am
Right, but I still put them in before hand, as I am sure, many others do. And I usually put them in to indicate what it was “regarding”. But as I said, it could be done both ways, and it COULD have been a reply as well.
But yes, investigative reporting has seemed to have gone away with the dodo.
Nope, Don’t know and don’t care. That is between him and Revenue Canada.
By Van on 11.28.07 11:04 pm
Typical of the Neo-con. attitude.
Thats why they can work for a $35 billion dollar LIER! With NO conscience.
But yes, investigative reporting has seemed to have gone away with the dodo.
By SJ on 11.29.07 1:17 pm
Yes. If it was a reply to an earlier email what did it say? Anyone can alter a Reply to an email. This letter could been initially sent by Shreiber was replied back to with “history” (which usually puts a vertical line in front of the original email content) , Shreiber could of removed the reply, deleted the vertical line and kept the content from his original email to make it look like it was sent from Sharon Mackay.
You know a lot of people see images of Jesus on toast.
Keep this con man around; there are many Liberal skeletons yet to come out of the closet. There is still $9,700,000 in commissions that were apparently paid while the Libs were in office.Palms are rather sweaty in Ottawa, the arm pit of the world.
ypical of the Neo-con. attitude.
Thats why they can work for a $35 billion dollar LIER! With NO conscience.
By A.R.Wainwright on 11.29.07 2:16 pm
Are you willing to give out your personal income tax information? When you do let me know. The facts are that income tax information is private between the individual and revenue Canada. That dummy is reality and has nothing to do with my political position. I will also give you another reality check you idiot.
Facts for the Record..
I do not work for the Conservatives a have never been a member of the conservatives and will never be a member of the Conservatives and will never become a member of any political party as far as that goes. so stick that in your pipe you left wing waco .
But he cannot be made to speak!
By Doug on 11.29.07 7:39 am
You are right but then it would be in contempt which would likely mean jail time. that is his choice. Talk ro go to jail. I think when the chips are down KS will talk.
Right now he is in control of the Ethics committee.
By A.R.Wainwright on 11.29.07 2:16 pm
What Van is saying is ‘I am a Rethuglican!’
Same as G.H.W. Bush’s infamous statement ‘Read my lips! No NEW taxes.’
Yeppers, no ‘new’ taxes, he just raised the existing ones. Liars are Masters at their trade.
You know a lot of people see images of Jesus on toast.
By KPK on 11.29.07 3:18 pm
Really? I thought it was the Virgin Mary? Man, somebody has missed a HUGE marketing opportunity. All that Texas Toast, and no Jesus!
I gotta switch bread brands.
Bill don’t put words in my mouth thank you very much. Sorry ole bean I don’t need your help.
If A.R.Wainwright can’t comprehend my comments then that is his problem. Let him ask for a clarification.
Unlike you I am not a card carrying member of any party and proud of it. Someday I may will tell you why I am not.
Someday I may will tell you why I am not.
By Van on 11.29.07 7:00 pm
Please do. We may have more in common than you think.
Garth,people just don’t care what you think about the economy.They would care if you had not turned traitor and constantly exibit bitterness to your old soulmates in the Conservative Government.You may have been a Parlimentary Secretary or better. Now you just don’t matter.
That must be why you’re here. — Garth